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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yes, because if National News didn't report it..... It didn't happen

    Hint/Tip: All sexual assault crimes are not national news.
    In other words, we must take your (or others) word for it.

    While that may work well in elementary school, some of us have indeed attained an age greater than 12. Mentally, as well as physically. Should I mention IQ points? No, that would be overkill....

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    In order to not waste bandwidth, nor waste the time of those capable of critical thought, I don't explain the obvious.
    Gee, what an intriguing response. You being rather partisan, I doubt your ability to use evidence to back up your claims. I suggest you provide evidence for your ridiculous claims, or else be deemed not credible for being biased. One capable of critical thought would never make such ridiculous claims.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Gee, what an intriguing response. You being rather partisan, I doubt your ability to use evidence to back up your claims. I suggest you provide evidence for your ridiculous claims, or else be deemed not credible for being biased. One capable of critical thought would never make such ridiculous claims.
    Congratulations on one, large, cohesive, personal attack. Now -- do you have a rational argument to present?

    The following stands as self-evident, and without rebuttal (to date):

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    [...] The right will tolerate no assault on unfettered capitalism, even though they are, for the most part, arguing against their own self-interest. As the Tea Party politicians in Congress have clearly shown, the 'new' right is willing to destroy the economy in order to protect (what they think is) capitalism. [...]

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What makes it "brutal" in your view?

    and where is the line between protest and riot?
    A man is in coma or was last I read.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    A man is in coma or was last I read.
    All because the crowd chose to not obey the law and throw things at policemen. You should be angry at the protesters, not the people who were trying to restore order.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Congratulations on one, large, cohesive, personal attack. Now -- do you have a rational argument to present?

    The following stands as self-evident, and without rebuttal (to date):
    no, it does not stand as self-evident.... it stands as your personal opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    A man is in coma or was last I read.
    no, he isn't.. he's in fair condition making a full recovery.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Congratulations on one, large, cohesive, personal attack. Now -- do you have a rational argument to present?The following stands as self-evident, and without rebuttal (to date):
    You are the one who made the statement, and so YOU are to back your claims up with evidence. The mere fact that I've given you chances to provide evidence, yet you so vehemently refuse, calls your credibility into question. Only axioms are self-evident, which your paragraph isn't. Prove your statement or lose your credibility, Sir. There is more on the line here than being right. Your credibility will take a blow if you yet again refuse to offer any evidence for your claims.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Couple of things, descent is absolutely necessary if you want to land a plane or get off of a high elevation.
    Damn google chrome spell check!

    Dissent is sometimes necessary in a free society, but not just because you personally don't like the way things are,
    Ohhh so i got it when 47% of the country agrees with your movement then its just that way because "you dont like it".
    Its a global movement...

    dissent because the government has encroached your rights is patriotic, not because you want people to pay more taxes or you have problems with the way the country was founded.
    That is not the point of the movement. Its a group of people that have different ideologies who want the corporate control of our political system gone...

    In short your dissent should have real merit and not just be a bunch of pissing and moaning.
    Soooo i get it.. Pissing and moaning over a democrat being in office is ok, while waving around signs calling him a nazi, socialist, communist, marxist, while be fueled by a nut job political pundit who just draws on a chalk board in your book is good dissent. But when a global movement starts about separating corporations and state comes up that is just a bunch of in your words: "pissing and moaning".

    This is indeed democracy, well, democracy among the small percentage of people in the protests within that group, most of the U.S. thinks these clowns are full of ****.
    Not really. Most of the US agrees with the message.

    Finally, the United States is NOT a democracy, we are a democratic republic
    A democratic republic is a form of democracy.
    We are a republic with a form of representative "democracy"

    and this was done so that if the public got too greedy or stupid they couldn't mess the whole thing up by tipping the scales in a manner that the damage couldn't be repaired.
    We are a democratic republic.

    Somehow the politicians have figured out a way to **** things up anyway and these protesters want more stupid moves......tsk tsk.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Do you mean "dissent"? I understand dissent is also a great way to start a revolution. A revolution that could change a republic into a socialist nation, or a democracy, etc.
    First off what is the right wings obsession just saying we are a republic? You do realize what a republic is? The vast majority of republics have some form of democracy. We are a democratic republic. A republic that has a form of representative democracy, which is a form of democracy. So we are a democratic republic.
    Second off you can be a republic and have socialism Wake... Do we need to go back to the communist/socialist thread again?


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