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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Already posted, already saw it. Again, you've got nothing... but you're welcome to explain how this detracts from their anti-greed message that Wall Street is raping the middle and lower classes. Furthermore, this is unrelated to the Oakland event (the topic of this thread).

    For those that are unfamiliar with this story, here is the pertinent section:

    [...] The directive also says, in part, "Though we do not encourage the involvement of the police in our community, the survivor [of sexual abuse] has every right, and the support of Occupy Baltimore, to report the abuse to the appropriate authorities."

    Occupy Baltimore group discourages reporting rape, health advocates say - baltimoresun.com
    I would further note to all that the poster above, nor the source above, has released an actual copy of this 'directive'... so we are again taking the word of the media at face value.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Would you agree that if the "eviction notice" was never issued or enforced that the resulting situation would not have occurred?

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine, replying to Karl View Post
    Do you have anything substantive to claim other than......

    Look, everyone -- a childish post.

    Apropos, hmm?

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Would you agree that if the "eviction notice" was never issued or enforced that the resulting situation would not have occurred?
    It would not have occurred. But more people would be beaten, raped, it would end up in someone getting murdered in that camp.

    You can't just put a group of people in a camp of lawlessness and expect everything to be hunky-dory.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    The next time I take a rape report, I'll be sure to let the victim know to go **** herself because all I have is this vague undocumented "report"....



    Rape victims, or all victims really, have the right to keep their names off of the public record of the report for privacy reasons.



    Your just grasping for reasons to support the protesters and ignore the public safety hazard that the occupation presented.
    I can't find any actual police statements in regards to these incidents, just newspaper and blog reports.

    No quotes from police in the articles that I can find. I looked through three pages before I found the actual cbs article.

    I'm beginning to smell a rat (not you), but I'm not all caught up on these threads, so if I'm missing something, please point me in the right direction.

    Its looking more and more like a propaganda blitz designed to cast the protesters in a negative light to foster acceptance of putting an end to the protests once and for all.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Laws against Camping have nothing to do with time place and manner restrictions.

    They are laws against camping........

    To consistently ignore this, is mind boggling.
    So local camping ordinances trump constitutional protections then?

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I can't find any actual police statements in regards to these incidents, just newspaper and blog reports.

    No quotes from police in the articles that I can find. I looked through three pages before I found the actual cbs article.

    I'm beginning to smell a rat (not you), but I'm not all caught up on these threads, so if I'm missing something, please point me in the right direction.

    Its looking more and more like a propaganda blitz designed to cast the protesters in a negative light to foster acceptance of putting an end to the protests once and for all.
    You are just....

    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    So local camping ordinances trump constitutional protections then?
    Camping is NOT pettitioning the government.

    You can't do ANYTHING you want and call it assembly and protest and be protected.

    If so, You have no problem with me keying your car right?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And rape.... and beat each other.... and **** all over public lands, and piss all over the place.... leave rotten food out, refuse to allow police to investigate crimes, refuse to allow medical personnel to treat people brutally beaten by the others.....

    This list goes on and on....
    Sure and your own logical (I am using the term loosely) progression of what would transpire should we allow these people to camp there ends up with them not being able to camp there.... looked your slippery slope post was fundamentally flawed.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    It would not have occurred. But more people would be beaten, raped, it would end up in someone getting murdered in that camp.

    You can't just put a group of people in a camp of lawlessness and expect everything to be hunky-dory.
    This is nothing more than mere speculation. You may be correct, or you might not be. In essence it is an appeal to emotion.

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