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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    I'm curious - to those who think what the police did was wrong from the get-go....what should the police have done with a large crowd of people throwing things at them?


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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I'm curious - to those who think what the police did was wrong from the get-go....what should the police have done with a large crowd of people throwing things at them?
    I would have been ok if rubber bullets were not used and other forms of crowd control such as pain rays, immobile foam, etc.

    The tear gas and flash grenades do not have a possibility or a very low possibility for long term physical damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I would have been ok if rubber bullets were not used and other forms of crowd control such as pain rays, immobile foam, etc.

    The tear gas and flash grenades do not have a possibility or a very low possibility for long term physical damage.
    I don't think pain rays are widely distributed in the US police force, correct me if I'm mistaken

    Tear gas and flash grenades does hurt when in close proximity, but won't leave any long term physical damage, though there are rare exceptions
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I don't think pain rays are widely distributed in the US police force, correct me if I'm mistaken

    Tear gas and flash grenades does hurt when in close proximity, but won't leave any long term physical damage, though there are rare exceptions
    Yeah, thats my point, lack of long term damage makes them more acceptable.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    I may have missed it...has anyone addressed what prompted this so-called police atrocity?
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I may have missed it...has anyone addressed what prompted this so-called police atrocity?
    Well, according to this thread, that depends on who you ask. If you ask the police, they say the protestors were charging the police line. If you ask the protestors, they say we were sleeping in our tents when flash bangs and tear gas started going off. (Exaggerated of course). Personally, I think the protestors were MOSTLY peacefully protesting. The police came in and told them to leave. Then, a couple assholes probably threw m-80's at the police (Remember a couple out of a thousand). They then proceeded to shoot tear gas and throw flash bangs at the protestors. If you ask me if this was overboard I'd say yes. They should've just arrested the two or three assholes who were throwing m-80's, then if the rest joined in use crowd control. I still think whoever threw that flashbang into those people trying to help the injured vet should be reprimanded. Anywho that's just my two cents on the subject.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I may have missed it...has anyone addressed what prompted this so-called police atrocity?
    1. They refused to leave.
    2. They started throwing things at the police.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I may have missed it...has anyone addressed what prompted this so-called police atrocity?
    No, that subject has been avoided like the plague.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Lawrence O'Donnell had a protester on his show the other night. I think he actually thought she was going to say what he wanted her to say, but she didn't...



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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Agree with the majority of your post Cain but someone with your experience as a Police Officer should know better than to say something like this. You've never arrived on the scene and an out of uniform Medic has already administered assistance to someone? Since when do Medics only attend to injured person (s) if they have their uniform on?

    I've helped people whilst off duty. It's automatic. If you come across someone injured you don't ignore it because you are out of uniform.
    Yes but the contention that I was battling was a suggestion from another poster that medical personnel who were on scene (staged) to treat injured were prevented from helping. In order to be prevented from helping you have to be trying.

    A. All those people who went up to him eventually did get back up to him and pick him up and walk him away from there... as evidenced in another video.
    B. In that video... the group of people carrying him are screaming MEDIC! MEDIC! which they wouldnt be doing if they were in fact medics..
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