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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    but what if it's not peaceful because government made it not peaceful?
    In general, illegal actions by government towards citizens is addressed in court.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Some of the protesters are annoying but I don't hate them or the protests. In fact a good bit of the more uninformed in the crowd are quite amusing. What I don't like is breaking actual well formed and reasoned law and calling it peaceable assembly.
    While the laws are understandable under nominal conditions, such as having "closed" time on public property; I feel that assembly and protest are too important to hedge and infringe against. While there can also be abuse of ideals of that nature, I'd rather err on the side of freedom than that of State authority.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    While the laws are understandable under nominal conditions, such as having "closed" time on public property; I feel that assembly and protest are too important to hedge and infringe against.
    They really aren't, human waste is diseased whether you protest or not, stopping others from work or hindering them doesn't change because you have a gripe, the damage that tent cities cause to areas when unkept does not change because you want to speak.
    While there can also be abuse of ideals of that nature, I'd rather err on the side of freedom than that of State authority.
    If the proper laws are followed you can have both.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Without reasonable restrictions to public park access.... this is what we will have...

    The government wont be able to keep campers off their property..... the rest of the public wont be able to USE the facilities the way they were intended....... the government wont be able to keep up with the maintenance on said property...... the Parks and Recreation Departments wont be able to maintain their budget....... the Public Parks will have to be sold to private entities.... we will no longer have public parks........and our freedom expressers will have WHERE to go at that point to freeload and camp out?

    How do you like my slippery slope?
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    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Hey! First Oakland and now San Diego...who knew Californians were such dickhead Nazi's???

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Good news regarding the veteran that was critically injured.
    Wounded Iraq vet awake after Oakland protest injury | Reuters

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Without reasonable restrictions to public park access.... this is what we will have...

    The government wont be able to keep campers off their property..... the rest of the public wont be able to USE the facilities the way they were intended....... the government wont be able to keep up with the maintenance on said property...... the Parks and Recreation Departments wont be able to maintain their budget....... the Public Parks will have to be sold to private entities.... we will no longer have public parks........and our freedom expressers will have WHERE to go at that point to freeload and camp out?

    How do you like my slippery slope?

    I agree with all you said Caine...but I believe the Oakland Police were excessive in this instance...

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Hell of a lot more humane than attack dogs and firehoses.
    damn, I was hoping willy peter!!



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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm trying to care, but it just isn't working.
    a napalm run might have gained some concern

    but only a few seconds !!



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