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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The law is the law. Aren't you a law and order Liberal?

    I know you've heard this before, but we can't say it enough: you're all about the law, until it no longer serves your purpose. Don't you work for the government?
    I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about. And i suspect you have less than half of that yourself. Which is twice the knowledge you possess about most issues here.

    That "Libbo" invention of yours is cute .... kind of like a babbling baby invents its own language between its first and second year which only it seems to comprehend. Then they get toilet trained and about the same time learn the real words. At least most of them do.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Actually, you very much can assemble where and when you want. The constitutional right to assemble and protest trumps any law. The constitution is the supreme law of the land. All others are subordinate to it. Now, in order for the first amendment to apply, you'd have to show that your protest had to happen there, but only if there's a conflict with something else, like personal property rights. If a more suitable location is available, you can be forced to move there. In the case of a public park or other location that is open for public use... there's certainly no location that is vastly more suited to host a protest, and something MUST be made available. To prevent the protest by disallowing it from having a location is infringing on that first amendment guarantee.

    Would the middle of the street be better? Of course not, there are lots of safety issues. A public park is the most suitable forum for this demonstration to take place. A law that closes the park could not interfere with the right to assemble and protest. Under the constitution, the protesters have the right to be there, regardless of any laws that would ordinarily kick people out.
    You can not assemble whenever or wherever you want. You can not assemble on private property without the approval of the owner. The right to free speech doesn't "trump" that. The Constitution guarantees the right to peaceful assembly. If the assembled are not peaceful, then law enforcement must enforce the peace.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Yes, but they also must obey the laws. If a park closes at a certain time, you have to leave or you are breaking the law. If the property owners say they no longer want you at their house, you have to leave. You can't just assemble wherever you want, however long you want and doing whatever you want.
    Could you show me where all that is mentioned in the First Amendment of the US Constitution?

    As I recall, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Could you show me where all that is mentioned in the First Amendment of the US Constitution?

    As I recall, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.
    I can tote my gun anywhere, anytime I want? Gun-free zones are illegal?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about. And i suspect you have less than half of that yourself. Which is twice the knowledge you possess about most issues here.

    That "Libbo" invention of yours is cute .... kind of like a babbling baby invents its own language between its first and second year which only it seems to comprehend. Then they get toilet trained and about the same time learn the real words. At least most of them do.
    You know exactly what I'm talking about. Just admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

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    Jeesshh.. What are you doing on DebatePolitics.com then?
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you even have half an idea what that is supposed to mean?
    Yeah brother...it means lets grab some bats and beat some scab ass...right?

    Hypocrite...you is one.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You know exactly what I'm talking about. Just admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    When you do not express yourself clearly, when your 'ideas' are not fully developed, when one engages in nonsense terms of their own creation, the result is a failure of the recipient to understand what point you failed to convey.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yeah brother...it means lets grab some bats and beat some scab ass...right?

    Hypocrite...you is one.
    Where are you getting this nonsense from? If you believe my posts gave you these rather unique 'ideas' quote some of them for us.
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