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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    I have an idea, if the cops would have threatened them with soap and water they would have beat feet out of that park.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    The problem is that the constitution is the highest law in the land... They, unless we amend the constitution, should be able to protest anywhere at anytime, including your front yard.
    You of course can show where the constitution offers such 'rights'...right?

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    So.....yeah....

    Please oh PLEASE let there be another video!

    Self important little ****heads that think they actually understands the laws...they funny!!!

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Please oh PLEASE let there be another video!

    Self important little ****heads that think they actually understands the laws...they funny!!!
    And some of them are on this forum.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    If and only if toting the gun is 100% necessary to make your political point, yes. However I don't think you'll find many situations where that's the case. Even a protest about guns doesn't actually need guns present to make the point.

    Remember, the crackdowns on the OWS protesters aren't really trying to get them to "move somewhere else". There is no somewhere else. They're throwing them out of the one place where it is practical and safe (and thus legal) to hold the protest in order to stop the protest. If there were an alternate location that the police were trying to move these people to, that would be a different story. But there isn't.
    Oh, so, the Constitution doesn't trump all other laws? As I said before, the Libbos are all about the Constitution, the law and civil rights, as long as they work in the Libbos's favor. When they don't, they're suddenly dependent on the situation.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    Veteran in critical condition after police assault at Occupy Oakland — RT
    Apparently the man mentioned in the article is an Iraq war veteran and is in critical condition.
    I'm not at all surprised. I was a protester in the 1960's for both civil rights and against the Vietnam War (while my husband was serving in Vietnam). Some of the things I saw and experienced are why I don't think the US should be trying to claim the moral high-ground in the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As to deaths? If any coppers are seriously injured, I hope they open fire. These people need to understand that there are rules....even as they execute their right to assembly and free speech. Who doesn't understand that you don't fight the coppers in the streets, you fight 'em in the courthouse? People who figure they're bulletproof. They're not.
    The use of lethal force to disperse a crowd certainly isn't justified. I got to see the police attack protesters who were not attacking them too many times to automatically assume the police were actually provoked - the police always said they were under attack as a defense. The police certainly have the right to use some force when under attack, but launching "non-lethal" grenades into in a crowd is a recipe for disaster and should be a last resort instead of a go-to solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Yeah, the guy got shot with a projectile in the head (Supposedly non-lethal) in the head.

    Olsen, 24, was apparently hit in the head with a projectile that the police say is non-lethal. “This poor guy was right behind me when he was hit in the head with a police projectile,” eyewitness Jay Finneburg writes on Indybay. “He went down hard and did not get up.”

    While you'll say it is a projectile it doesn't say bullet; remember, something that causes that much damage must be moving pretty quick.
    Taking a direct hit from a tear-gas or flash grenade launched into a crowd could easily cause serious or fatal injuries. This is a teargas grenade launcher with two grenades.
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    Any reasonable person should realize that firing one of these devices into a crowd could result in fatalities.

    Here is a video that was taken that shows the amount of firepower police were using as this man was injured. Veteran shot in the face by police projectile at Occupy Oakland protests - YouTube

    This is despicable police behavior and it is now really, really reminding me of 1960s-early 1970's. This will likely do on a smaller scale what Kent State did did back in the 1970 - the antiwar movement grew by at least a third in the month after that happened.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    The problem is that the constitution is the highest law in the land... They, unless we amend the constitution, should be able to protest anywhere at anytime, including your front yard.
    Screw my property rights, right?

    By that notion, I can shoot targets with my gun, in your yard. It's my constitutional right to keep and bear arms and that means in your front yard, too.

    I bet you wouldn't be saying all that crap, if the Tea Party gathered in your front yard.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    I'm not at all surprised. I was a protester in the 1960's for both civil rights and against the Vietnam War (while my husband was serving in Vietnam). Some of the things I saw and experienced are why I don't think the US should be trying to claim the moral high-ground in the world.The use of lethal force to disperse a crowd certainly isn't justified. I got to see the police attack protesters who were not attacking them too many times to automatically assume the police were actually provoked - the police always said they were under attack as a defense. The police certainly have the right to use some force when under attack, but launching "non-lethal" grenades into in a crowd is a recipe for disaster and should be a last resort instead of a go-to solution.

    Taking a direct hit from a tear-gas or flash grenade launched into a crowd could easily cause serious or fatal injuries. This is a teargas grenade launcher with two grenades.
    hk69-3.jpg
    Any reasonable person should realize that firing one of these devices into a crowd could result in fatalities.

    Here is a video that was taken that shows the amount of firepower police were using as this man was injured. Veteran shot in the face by police projectile at Occupy Oakland protests - YouTube

    This is despicable police behavior and it is now really, really reminding me of 1960s-early 1970's. This will likely do on a smaller scale what Kent State did did back in the 1970 - the antiwar movement grew by at least a third in the month after that happened.
    Any reasonable person should obey the law and avoid a situation where those rounds are fired.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    So.....yeah....

    OMFG That guy is the biggest idiot ive seen in......... days......
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    It's got to be tough for police to do the job these peoples parents should have done earlier in their lives.
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