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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    The guy on the right sounds like a south park character.
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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well, to be fair, I don't see very many capitalist utopias out there either.
    The difference is that Socialism, in practice, isn't successful, unless it is supported by Capitalism, which, in practice, is successful.

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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    It's a good thing that democratic socialism is nothing like communism then, and that the Occupiers aren't even supporting either communism or democratic socialism.
    Oh, but many are.


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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick2253 View Post
    The difference is that Socialism, in practice, isn't successful, unless it is supported by Capitalism, which, in practice, is successful.
    I think child laborers would argue that point with you.
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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    These are typically dumb, as the former Soviet citizen has no idea what they're talking about.
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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I think child laborers would argue that point with you.
    You're implying that Capitalism is immoral. Actually, capitalism is amoral. It has no problem with Child laborers. Or monopolies, or horrible living and working conditions. It is up to the populace to educate themselves and demand better conditions from employers. If people demand it, then morality and capitalism could live side-by-side.

    The problem is that your complaint is irrelevant to the issue at hand: are socialism/communism economically successful? This has nothing to do with morality.

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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    The problem is that your complaint is irrelevant to the issue at hand: are socialism/communism economically successful?
    Is capitalism?
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Is capitalism?
    Very much so. All you need to do is look at China: when China converted to capitalistic markets, they say HUGE increases in wealth, production, and standards of living. If you want more examples, look at other Asian nations, the US, Europe, and South Africa.

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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Very much so.
    No it's not look at the massive recession we're in, ergo it's a failure.

    Your logic.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    No it's not look at the massive recession we're in, ergo it's a failure.

    Your logic.
    A couple got married and lived a happy life together successfully for many years.
    One day they had a big fight and the hubby slept on the couch.
    Soon, they got over it and continued their happy life.

    Your conclusion: Their marriage was a complete failure.

    You make no sense, dude.


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