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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    There weren't any poor people? No disabled people? Orphans? Elderly?

    No rich people?
    Nope, we didn't have rich people the same way we have rich people now. The economics and social factors at work are completely different compared to what they were in 1787.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Jonestown was a socialist community.
    Not in my book it wasn't. You mean you are against both?

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    Re: Former Soviet Union citizen confronts Socialists at an Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Yes, the difference between existence and non-existence. The capitalists do not allow socialist countries - it is a socialist world or nothing.
    Then I choose nothing.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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