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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    These are the people Team BO decided to support. I am pretty certain I will never understand liberalism. You cry over water boarding terrorists but support scumbags that sodomize a human being and then shoot him in the head? It gets better, the rebels are now claiming sharia law will be the foundation of Libya's political and judicial system. Just wondering, how well are women treated under sharia law? Saying liberals have selective moralsm is one of the greatest understatements of all time.


    Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame


    So how does this work out for the US? Are we and the world better off if Libya goes hardcore islamofacist? If Bush was a cowboy, what is BO? At least cowboys aim and then fire....BO fires and never even tries to aim?
    Conservativeguy expresses his outrage suggesting that fact that one Libyan rebel going to far is somehow an indictment of liberals in America as a whole.

    A few posts later some American conservative offers:

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If that were a bowie knife there were be copious amounts of blood. During Nam the Seals used a disemboweling technique against NVA sentries that involved thrusting a knife up the rectum-apparently the victim's reaction is to suck in air stifling a scream and the blood loss causes almost instant immobilization
    I am speechless.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Please stop attemtpign to weave corporate democrats in with liberals. True liberals should be denouncing the war on Libya's government + people.
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Please stop attemtpign to weave corporate democrats in with liberals. True liberals should be denouncing the war on Libya's government + people.
    Why would true liberals not support an attempt to shed a dictator?
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Why would true liberals not support an attempt to shed a dictator?
    As a liberal, I am fine with the shedding of a dictator as long as it doesn't require occupation and the people of that region are happy for us to be there.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by LennyD View Post
    That does sound pretty good on the surface, but again how much of the above do we really know to be completely true.

    I would think the cost comparison may be accurate, and the dollars spent would in no way compare to what has been spent over three different presidential administrations (or was it four lol) in Iraq, but what do we REALLY know about Libya?

    What I mean is when you look outside of the US you will find information (go ahead and search for yourself) that shows both good and bad, and if you look really close you will find where some of the leaders of the more radical Islamic groups (I believe the same people who murdered Sadat) actually had personally threatened Gaddafi for his views and statements that were not inline with their radical beliefs.

    I have also found information showing that this guy had been cooperating with the US in recent years, and was not looked at as a threat at all.

    I remember on one of those boring weekend news shows way before the original invasion of Iraq that they were discussing potential "bad guys" that the public would back an invasion of, and Gaddafi was dismissed at that time (I believe around the time of the 93 failed WTC bombing) though they agreed he was a potential due to the previous airline bombings etc.

    This does not mean this guy was a priest or even a true friend of the US, but that is also true of many of our so called friends!
    There is no question that Ghadafi had been sucking up to us lately. There's also no question that he supported terrorists who killed Americans -- unlike Saddam. The two really had a lot in common.

    Islamic extremists have long sought to overthrow the secular dictators in the ME. In fact that has been their primary purpose all along. The irony is that in decades of struggle, they gained absolutely no headway with their terrorist tactics, while the largely secular Arab Spring protesters have made enormous strides in under a year. It will be very interesting to see how all of this shakes out. The Islamists may end up gaining power in some or all of these countries, or democracy may win out and the extremists may suffer their greatest defeeat.

    What's clear is that the status quo wasn't working for anyone -- except the dictators and their close associates. Speaking of which, it was recently reported that Ghaddafi managed to rob Libya of around $200 billion, or about twice the amount previously thought.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Why would true liberals not support an attempt to shed a dictator?
    Usurping the soveriengty of another nation that has not attacked us is anti-liberal in nature. Instead a true liberal would want open borders and not force their way over another country. (if someone is being picked on by a dictator then come join America)

    Anyone that claims to be liberal and supports invading a country that has not attacked us is terribly confused and needs to relinquish their liberal lable.
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    There is absolutely no doubt that Gaddafi was guilty of terrible crimes against humanity. Once he was captured however, the rebels had the chance to show him to the world as an example that Gaddafis way was not the way that a civilized society treats it's people and place him on trial.

    Instead they behaved like a pack of barbaric animals on acid and showed the worse traits of humankind. This will do little for the image of their country and cause. A great start for a new Democratic Nation with torture and Summary execution without a trial. He was never made to be held accountable for any of his actions.
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Usurping the soveriengty of another nation that has not attacked us is anti-liberal in nature. Instead a true liberal would want open borders and not force their way over another country. (if someone is being picked on by a dictator then come join America)

    Anyone that claims to be liberal and supports invading a country that has not attacked us is terribly confused and needs to relinquish their liberal lable.
    You're telling me I shouldn't support the downing of a dictator because there was foreign involvement?

    Am I to take it you prefer the situation in Syria to the one in Libya, that protesters and rebels should be subject to brutal state crackdowns than actually have a chance to install a democracy.
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I can't imagine that there are 133 things i would rather have done to me than be sodomized with a knife.

    20 things, tops

    Really? I can think of a million things I'd rather have done to me than be sodomized with a knife.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    There is absolutely no doubt that Gaddafi was guilty of terrible crimes against humanity. Once he was captured however, the rebels had the chance to show him to the world as an example that Gaddafis way was not the way that a civilized society treats it's people and place him on trial.

    Instead they behaved like a pack of barbaric animals on acid and showed the worse traits of humankind. This will do little for the image of their country and cause. A great start for a new Democratic Nation with torture and Summary execution without a trial. He was never made to be held accountable for any of his actions.
    You can't say he wasn't held accountable, he certainly was, in quite brutal fashion.

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