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Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

Only one thing missing in those videos. All of the thousands of people killed by bombings by Ghadaffi himself. Until you show videos of those to balance out the report, you'll be seen as quite frankly, ridiculous.
Civilized people don't respond in kind to acts of unthinkable brutality and horror. To do so would make us just as evil as the evil we are fighting. I have no problem putting down a killer, just show some class and do it objectively and fast.
 
An example from real life. In 2004 we were hit head-on by a young man who passed out due to illegal drug use and my injuries forever altered my life. Had this happened when I was younger, I would have likely wanted this youngster to rot in jail for decades or his head on a platter. By 2004, I had realized that destroying his young life would not help my situation in any meaningful way and would not help society either. So I insisted he be given a chance to turn his life around in a drug court program (Guilty plea for felony, immediate parole for sentence with understanding that he would serve 100% the prison time if he did not turn his life around). He recovered from his addiction, is now a productive citizen and is not a threat to no one instead of an ex-con who cost society about $250,000 to imprison.

I can understand your thinking 100%, and bad as such a situation must be it is uplifting to see your thought and attitude on it as well.
 
The US definition of terrorism has been widely criticized by other first-world countries because it opens the door for a bad prez (like Nixon or Dick Cheney) to create a totalitarian state

It could be both. That MG improved education, quality of life and infrastructure in Libya is true. That GM also committed atrocities is true. The two are not mutually exclusive.

My guess is GM was taken down because the bigger powers could no longer control him. He had been doing the things cited as reason to help the people overthrow his government for decades so I'm not buying this as the true reason.

View attachment 67117570 The rebels who abused MG were angry young men bent on revenge. Had they been older/seasoned men, I believe MG's end would have been more humane and more in accordance with international law.

I am thinking we agree more than not.

The misuse of "terrorism" is out of control, and the overwhelming amount of propaganda of what we are shown relating to foreign affairs and happenings in the ME in the news makes it truly difficult to form a proper opinion.

One moment we are led to believe that all of Islam is planning to over throw the entire west "by the sword" and the next were told that there are only a small amount of "radicals" that are being dealt with militarily, and then that this leader or that leader is part of the "axis of evil" and so on and so forth as the BS piles up so high no one can believe any of it.

From reading various news sources outside of the US, and reading various authors who have either first hand experience or have lived most of their lives in the ME I have become of the opinion that the garbage we are fed by our legislators and our media is inaccurate, misleading and changes direction as the needs of public opinion and various political and monetary agendas dictate.

I completely agree with the issues some "bigger power" had with MG, and that this was a big part of why he was allowed to fall, but also realize that more importantly than his own selling him out is that there is a much larger force driving all the change in the ME and being that force is money and power it is no surprise that the exact country or leader is only of importance when rallying public support.

I figure this all is why so many outside the US despise it, though not everyone would be an ally even if such tactics were not used it would seem obvious that the normal everyday working class family in the ME would have much more anger towards the US than MG etc.

We have to remember that those inside the ME are most likely receiving the exact opposite propaganda that is used in the US, and just like in the US when things are tough or worse finding a common enemy to blame and point hatred towards etc is a very strong and effective tool.

Now add to all this the large amount of anti terror units, dollars, and manpower being used to "keep an eye" on the OWS protests and it makes one really wonder just WTF is the intent of the whole war on terror, and where is this all leading to?
 
This region of the world.........

What is it? Why is it so hard for any nation there to evolve beyond the stone age and act like a civilized species?
 
This region of the world.........

What is it? Why is it so hard for any nation there to evolve beyond the stone age and act like a civilized species?


You live in Texas and ask that question? Seriously?
 
These are the people Team BO decided to support. I am pretty certain I will never understand liberalism. You cry over water boarding terrorists but support scumbags that sodomize a human being and then shoot him in the head? It gets better, the rebels are now claiming sharia law will be the foundation of Libya's political and judicial system. Just wondering, how well are women treated under sharia law? Saying liberals have selective moralsm is one of the greatest understatements of all time.


Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame



So how does this work out for the US? Are we and the world better off if Libya goes hardcore islamofacist? If Bush was a cowboy, what is BO? At least cowboys aim and then fire....BO fires and never even tries to aim?

OP promised this was graphic. OP lied.
 
OP promised this was graphic. OP lied.

How is that not graphic? The pictures show a man being sodomized with a knife.

Seriously, Jerry?
 
The problem with your comment is that the U.S. actions in Iraq and Afghanistan had bi-lateral support; the Libyan actions were done by executive order. Also, whether or not anything was G.W's fault should have little to do with the current administration's accountability. The Obama "Blame it on Bush" political tactic got old about two and half years ago. I would like to think that the gross violation of one of Obama's main platforms (you know, the one where he would never, ever, send military troops into another country, or engage in military action unless it was in the direct defense of the country) would be enough to make him un-electable for a second term.
 
OP promised this was graphic. OP lied.

I haven't served in the military, especially during a war.....I imagine your life experience has caused you to see far worse. From my perspective that was a rather barbaric act.

Thanks for your service, we all immensely appreciate it.
 
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I must have missed where this war was a liberal versus conservative thing. Heck, John McCain said the only thing he would have done differently was put the whole US Air force on it.
McCain is not conservative. He is a statist. He is a republican in name only.

It is good that the one term Marxist president Obama is in power. We can clearly see what happens when liberalism runs amok. Under McCain liberals would have been on a long leash. It is better for the nation to be destroyed by a Democrat than by an Establishment Republican.
 
How is that not graphic? The pictures show a man being sodomized with a knife.

Seriously, Jerry?

Because the OP doesn't actually show him being sodomized - with or without a knife. It shows fuzzy image-stills plucked from a poor quality video camera and mulls over the possibilities of 'what happened'
 
honestly I didn't. but I have seen tons of jokes about Mormons to attack MR. I am an agnostic but I tire of bashing a guy over his religion. I cannot stand Obama but i couldn't care less if he's . . . a follower of the horned beast Ba'al
Or as we call them, Democrats! :3oops:
 
Bottom line, by following the policy he did, Obama was able to help the Libyan's free themselves of a murderous, anti-democratic sponsor of terror against the U.S. other countries around the world. It cost us about 1/1000th what we paid to get rid of Saddam, not a single U.S. trooper was killed, and we are not on the hook for a protracted bout of nation building.

That's what I call kickin' it liberal style. :cool:
. . .and help to install a murderous, anti-democratic sponsor of terror against the US. Israel, and other countries around the world...?
That's what I call kickin' it liberal style. Yep. It is difficult to tell the ending to this story. I do not believe it will be a happy one.
 
I would have been happy to have missed that video. It's gruesome. These Libyian freedom fighters are no better than he was. Absolutely horrendous footage. This is not what our government should be supporting. President Obama should speak out against this kind of torture and murder. Just awful.
Aren't they just like the Tea Party? Wait, He was talking about the Occupiers.



You Tube. Awesome.
 
These are the people Team BO decided to support. I am pretty certain I will never understand liberalism. You cry over water boarding terrorists but support scumbags that sodomize a human being and then shoot him in the head? It gets better, the rebels are now claiming sharia law will be the foundation of Libya's political and judicial system. Just wondering, how well are women treated under sharia law? Saying liberals have selective moralsm is one of the greatest understatements of all time.


Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame



So how does this work out for the US? Are we and the world better off if Libya goes hardcore islamofacist? If Bush was a cowboy, what is BO? At least cowboys aim and then fire....BO fires and never even tries to aim?
You know, liberals love sodomy, so I don't see why any would have a problem with it.

Seriously? If conservatives had a point about "It's all Bush's fault" you should all bit jumping at the bit over posts like this.
 
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