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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    There's another vid circulating which shows him being found, dragged out the tunnel, and before he gets to the truck, shot in the head. I wonder who was starring in this one?
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

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    It was war effect into untrained soldiers.
    No this was the fairy tale along with the idea we were trying to protect civilian lives with a no fly zone.

    Qatar admits sending hundreds of troops to support Libya rebels

    Qatari chief-of-staff reveals extent of involvment, saying troops were responsible for training, communications and strategy

    The revelation came as Qatar hosted a conference on the post-Gaddafi era that was attended by the leader of Libya's ruling National Transitional Council, Mustafa Abdel-Jalil, who described the Qataris as having planned the battles that paved the way for victory.

    Qatari special forces are reported to have provided infantry training to Libyan fighters in the western Nafusa mountains and in eastern Libya. Qatar's military even brought Libyan rebels back to Doha for exercises. And in the final assault on Gaddafi's Bab al-Aziziya compound in Tripoli in late August, Qatari special forces were seen on the frontline. Qatar also gave $400m to the rebels, helped them export oil from Benghazi and set up a TV station in Doha.

    Libyan gratitude is clear. The maroon and white flag of Qatar is often flown at celebrations and Algeria Square in central Tripoli has been renamed Qatar Square in honour of the country's support in toppling Gaddafi. Some, however, express concern at the emirate's support for Islamist elements such as the 17 February Martyrs Brigade, one of the most influential rebel formations, led by Abdel-Hakim Belhaj.
    Qatar admits sending hundreds of troops to support Libya rebels | World news | The Guardian

    At the same time Saif Al-Islam is probably in Niger and has said he wants to hand himself into to the ICC so if nobody kills him first, maybe we will eventually find out what was really going on.
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Really...



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    don't ask me if I served in the Army and then when I give you an answer you question it. Its very annoying.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    That is a gross understatement. I will stand here and admit I really blew it with this thread.
    Yeah, you did. Your actual premise... was it wise to join NATO at the behest of our allies to aid in a civil war... was a good premise. I was very leery about this too. If in fact Obama had acted unilaterally, I would have been furious. But he didn't. France, Britain and Spain spearheaded this NATO-led attack. So you should have come at the premise about when and why should we abandon an ally's assistance request and refuse to be part of a NATO operation.

    Instead you laid the whole thing at the feet of Obama and those "liberals", and turned what could have been an interesting, fruitful discussion into just another *yawn* hyper-partisian hackfest. Next time, choose your words more carefully and you will be much more successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What makes me uneasy is a mentality that allows you to wear a bomb-belt into an crowd of innocent people and kill them. And possibly the mentality in which you would have your children doing it too. There happens to be one religion that has a high tendency to promote such thinking. And not only thinking, but doing.
    Do you prefer that the bomb be dropped from a plane instead? The problem here is that we simply don't understand the mentality of people in the East. Whereas the West has long given up the idea of an entire populace investing every single piece of man power, the East(and that includes Africa) still believes that in war, everything is fair. To be honest? I don't blame them. What other choice do you have when your enemies have historically been pussies about fighting starting with the German massacre of the Herero in the early 20th century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Yeah, you did. Your actual premise... was it wise to join NATO at the behest of our allies to aid in a civil war... was a good premise. I was very leery about this too. If in fact Obama had acted unilaterally, I would have been furious. But he didn't. France, Britain and Spain spearheaded this NATO-led attack. So you should have come at the premise about when and why should we abandon an ally's assistance request and refuse to be part of a NATO operation.

    Instead you laid the whole thing at the feet of Obama and those "liberals", and turned what could have been an interesting, fruitful discussion into just another *yawn* hyper-partisian hackfest. Next time, choose your words more carefully and you will be much more successful.
    I thought this was an interesting, and fruitful discussion. Just one a little cluttered with those who support and oppose BO bickering over the points that are specific to who was behind the US actions.

    Not sure this can be discussed without some attention paid to why the decisions were made how they were, and if they were the correct ones to make, and I am pretty sure there would be questioning and even ridicule no matter who was in the white house.

    If anyone wants to believe there are not different standards of what is acceptable from both ends of the spectrum they are welcome to do so, but that just does not seem to be accurate.
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    There's another vid circulating which shows him being found, dragged out the tunnel, and before he gets to the truck, shot in the head. I wonder who was starring in this one?
    I know more than one person who believes that this was not MG and that is was a body double etc. (tough job that would be, ouch) because MG really did have a good relationship with the US in recent years, and had some kind of special relationship with BO.

    I cant say I share that opinion, but given what we already know about how things can be made to look very different than they actually are I can not totally discount it either.

    What I still can not understand is why push out MG just to help new more radical leaders come to power. It just does not make any sense to give more power to radicals unless someone or some group here is somehow looking to help their concern.

    One thing I do know is that there is a good chance we may look at all of this very differently down the road when more information becomes available.
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    What i am saying is that there is nothing that anyone could do to me or anyone i loved that would make me sink to the depths of those animals who torture and shove knives up peoples asses.
    You must not give a rats ass about your loved ones enough to not want to give a little pay back to the scumbag or scumbags who would harm and or kill your loved ones.


    And be careful mate. You know nothing about me and what my experiences may or may not have been. Might pay you to leave it at that.
    So you are saying that you and your loved ones were victimized by a brutal dictator for decades?
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a funny comment given that Mitt has been married to the same woman for years, hasn't blown her off despite her contracting MS, and there is absolutely no hint of any infidelity

    of course taking a cheap shot at his faith is par for the course-from both the left and the bible thumping right
    You=too serious I think. It was kinda funny.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    don't ask me if I served in the Army and then when I give you an answer you question it. Its very annoying.
    Just getting to know you. Bit of a trickster I see. Sure I asked in a previous post whether you were in the army. Your quote however was related to your assertion that the brutal murder of Gaddafi, then a prisoner of war was not against International Law - and you claimed to know this on the basis of being a soldier.

    Well, guess what, it is! Makes me wonder what I do not know about the British Army which the British Public would be very interested to know.

    You finding it so unusual to have your opinion questioned is also interesting. Hint you are not in the army here
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