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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    problem is that its a big bad world out there and sometimes you have to sink to levels not socially acceptable in order to get the job done or send a messgae. End of the day its easy for you to sit back and judge these people but you never had to live under the ruthless rule of a dictator and you don't know what these guys went through to get this coward.
    Was it justified?

    Was it justified to use sodomy on him?

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I'm with Temporal on this one. Why be happy with people who sink to his level?

    You are no better than those who applaud others who raped and murdered a murderer.

    I do not mean to be harsh, but I find this disgusting to take delight in primitive carnality.
    Feeling that someone ate their just deserts isn't the same as celebrating it.

    If I wanted a rapist to be locked up does that mean I celebrate his arrest or incarceration?

    You're imposing happiness or other such positive emotion where there is none.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Was it justified?

    Was it justified to use sodomy on him?

    yeh it was! Sometimes in the heat of the moment you do things you would not normally do, anyone who has been in combat can tell you that (myself included). Like I said these guys probably went through hell to find this coward and this was the same coward who had been sodomizing a whole nation for years.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Feeling that someone ate their just deserts isn't the same as celebrating it.

    If I wanted a rapist to be locked up does that mean I celebrate his arrest or incarceration?

    You're imposing happiness or other such positive emotion where there is none.
    So do you disagree with how Gaddafi was treated before he was murdered?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    yeh it was! Sometimes in the heat of the moment you do things you would not normally do, anyone who has been in combat can tell you that (myself included). Like I said these guys probably went through hell to find this coward and this was the same coward who had been sodomizing a whole nation for years.
    Was it justified?

    What if he was sodomized, then tortured, then his fingers pulled apart, sodomized again, and then murdered?

    Is it still justified?

    Don't let your sense of patriotism blind you from wicked vengeance.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    So do you disagree with how Gaddafi was treated before he was murdered?



    Was it justified?

    What if he was sodomized, then tortured, then his fingers pulled apart, sodomized again, and then murdered?

    Is it still justified?

    Don't let your sense of patriotism blind you from wicked vengeance.

    on the contary I think its you who has to open your eyes. Your judging these men based on your own convinctions and on the western worlds justice system. This is a different part of the world and they deal with stuff differently from what we would. Saying that though my own country the UK and also the US have done stuff in the last 100 years that would be seen as barbaric by many but it got the Job done, look at the RAF bombing of dresden.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    problem is that its a big bad world out there and sometimes you have to sink to levels not socially acceptable in order to get the job done or send a messgae.
    that message will be useful a lot toward all other countries which had uprising during 2011. I guess there will be the same effect like Nicolae Ceaușescu death gave to EU.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    on the contary I think its you who has to open your eyes. Your judging these men based on your own convinctions and on the western worlds justice system. This is a different part of the world and they deal with stuff differently from what we would. Saying that though my own country the UK and also the US have done stuff in the last 100 years that would be seen as barbaric by many but it got the Job done, look at the RAF bombing of dresden.
    That does not make it right. Is it ever justified to use sodomy?

    Being barbaric is not justified. Where is the justice?

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That does not make it right. Is it ever justified to use sodomy?

    Being barbaric is not justified. Where is the justice?
    the justice is that the man who killed thousands and ruled with fear came to his end on his knees at the hands of the people he terrorised and died in agony.

    This video scared the public because they are not supposed to see this kind of thing, as far as they are concerned soldiers go and fight for them and are always true and just and everyone plays by the rules. Thats why when pictures of soldiers humilating and torturing POW'S or videos like this come out it scares people because they are used to seeing war though the eyes of the main stream media. War is brutal and gaddafi came to a brutal end.

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    the justice is that the man who killed thousands and ruled with fear came to his end on his knees at the hands of the people he terrorised and died in agony.

    This video scared the public because they are not supposed to see this kind of thing, as far as they are concerned soldiers go and fight for them and are always true and just and everyone plays by the rules. Thats why when pictures of soldiers humilating and torturing POW'S or videos like this come out it scares people because they are used to seeing war though the eyes of the main stream media. War is brutal and gaddafi came to a brutal end.
    You did not answer my questions.

    Is sodomy justified?

    Where is the justice?

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    Re: Gaddafi sodomized: Video shows abuse frame by frame (GRAPHIC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    on the contary I think its you who has to open your eyes. Your judging these men based on your own convinctions and on the western worlds justice system. This is a different part of the world and they deal with stuff differently from what we would. Saying that though my own country the UK and also the US have done stuff in the last 100 years that would be seen as barbaric by many but it got the Job done, look at the RAF bombing of dresden.
    You are aware that when the British public heard of the bombing of Dresden they were quite rightly outraged, Churchill distanced himself from the bombings and the pilots did not receive honours though I have a suspicion they recently have. For doing a dangerous job the people involved did did deserve the same recognition as others, but to ever believe that such actions are acceptable removes any concept of us as a people with humanity and allows for the barbarity which is today.

    What was done to Gaddafi, his son, the 53 other prisoners of war and countless others was disgusting and against International Law...but yes, we have seen too many of these actions in recent years and it seems acceptance is too easy. These are people we expect to act in a democratic way? But what I find more alarming is the glee and support such actions seem to arouse from people in the West. I fear the last years have removed from us, like Gaddafi asked his killers as he died the ability to know the difference between right and wrong. Also from what I heard the Western Governments are probably extremely pleased he did not stand trial as they would have been embarrassed by what was disclosed.

    Anyway none of this is personal to you. I read some of this thread a time ago and just came back and found your post. I usually find myself in agreement with you but possibly not this time.
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