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Unfortunately for you, what Zyphlin has said is not a sack of lies, but rather a nuanced approach to looking at social conservatism's relationship with the rest of conservatism (which struck me as the main issue with your post). Further, it was also whether or not one's big government social conservatism prevented one from being thought of as conservative, and so on. His only fault was that he was more patient than I in elaborating for someone who clearly does not want to temper his previous assertions.
You've disagreed with him, therefore you must be lying, and he will of course duly note it I'm sure.
Perhaps I should've followed your lead. There's few on the board that I've seen more skillfully and intelligently gave their view, reasoning, and thought regarding a particular branch of conservatism (neocons) as you and its clear you've long had a strong grasp of the nuances of the ideology so his dismissal of you early on should've been enough evidence.
The very nature of these "aberrations" shows his attempted implication that somehow being a social conservative makes one in favor of big government and authoritarianism to be incorrect. He complains about a "personal anecdote" while pointing to a SINGULAR posters statement as somehow PROOF of Social Conservativism being authoritarian as a whoel. Even the whole notio nof an "aberration" is noting but a baseless guess by him, using nothing at all other than his own anecdotal evidence (the type of evidence he mocked others for having and yet seems to act as if it is unquestionable truth when it comes from him) to suggest they truly are an aberration rather than simply a sizable and significant minority and possibly even just a vocal minority within the larger picture of "Conservatism" as a whole.
I would absolutely state that I think its likely that a large portion of those who hold social conservative views, and a vast majority of those who don't care about any other portion of conservatism other than the social side, also have very weak to non-existant views regarding governmental conservatism. But I think its ridiculous to suggest that somehow it is impossible, or even impluasible, for someone to hold both social conservative and governmental conservative views and adhere to both.