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Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

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Naomi Wolf is well known political activist and journalist. Recently she was arrested for doing nothing wrong at a NYC rally. I'm not a big fan of Keith Olberman but this video is worth watching just to hear what Ms. Wolf has to say. Her account of events and what it means to our First Amendment rights is rather startling.

This is night a right vs. left issue anymore. Our right to peaceful assembly is being trampled upon. I think her understanding of our OBLIGATION to keep government in check is the most important aspect of this interview.



Decide for yourself.
 
Who is't being allowed to assemble?
 
refusal to OBEY a LAWFUL order

she's been irrelevant for years-apparently trying to get some of the MSM Mojo back
 
organized protests on public property require a protest permit, in NYC.

is to so we don't have people blocking sidewalks and streets all over the place, willy-nilly.
 
refusal to OBEY a LAWFUL order

she's been irrelevant for years-apparently trying to get some of the MSM Mojo back

You obviously didn't watch the video.

She refused to obey an unlawful order, and the terms of the permit used to arrest her were incorrectly and illegally recited. The cops fabricated the pretext to arrest her.

Next time fully read/watch the OP before you start typing. Thanks.
 
organized protests on public property require a protest permit, in NYC.

is to so we don't have people blocking sidewalks and streets all over the place, willy-nilly.

You also didn't watch the video.


PEOPLE, PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO BEFORE COMMENTING IN THIS THREAD. THANK YOU.
 
Who determined it was an unlawful order?

Are the cops part of the 1%, too?
 
You obviously didn't watch the video.

She refused to obey an unlawful order, and the terms of the permit used to arrest her were incorrectly and illegally recited. The cops fabricated the pretext to arrest her.

Next time fully read/watch the OP before you start typing. Thanks.

I'll say it again: organized protests on public property in NYC require a protest permit.

no protest permit, means you get asked to leave once..and then you get arrested.

Olbermann himself calls it a "lawful order".
 
You obviously didn't watch the video.

She refused to obey an unlawful order, and the terms of the permit used to arrest her were incorrectly and illegally recited. The cops fabricated the pretext to arrest her.....

what were the terms of the permit?
 
You obviously didn't watch the video.

She refused to obey an unlawful order, and the terms of the permit used to arrest her were incorrectly and illegally recited. The cops fabricated the pretext to arrest her.

Next time fully read/watch the OP before you start typing. Thanks.
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Uh I did. and i have met Ms Wolf. She has faded from the scene of the relevant. she is not an attorney. therefore her claim is dubious.
 
Who determined it was an unlawful order?

Are the cops part of the 1%, too?

ultimately the highest court that reviews the matter
 
the fact is, OWS had an organized protest outside of this event. Naomin Klein was part of this protest, which of course had no protest permit as OWS doesnt believe in protest permits.

if they indeed had a permit to protest at that street, at that time, on that day...then the NYPD acted illegally and the charges will be dropped.
 
the fact is, OWS had an organized protest outside of this event. Naomin Klein was part of this protest, which of course had no protest permit as OWS doesnt believe in protest permits.

if they indeed had a permit to protest at that street, at that time, on that day...then the NYPD acted illegally and the charges will be dropped.

It's not that OWS doesn't believe in protest permits but the city seems a little hesitant to give them any for some reason. . . . . . . .
 
It's not that OWS doesn't believe in protest permits but the city seems a little hesitant to give them any for some reason. . . . . . . .

The clerk who issues the permits is part of the 1%.
 
refusal to OBEY a LAWFUL order

she's been irrelevant for years-apparently trying to get some of the MSM Mojo back
Is a cop saying, "Go away" a lawful order? If so then why do we even have the right to peacably assemble?
 
Naomi Wolf is well known political activist and journalist. Recently she was arrested for doing nothing wrong at a NYC rally. I'm not a big fan of Keith Olberman but this video is worth watching just to hear what Ms. Wolf has to say. Her account of events and what it means to our First Amendment rights is rather startling.

This is night a right vs. left issue anymore. Our right to peaceful assembly is being trampled upon. I think her understanding of our OBLIGATION to keep government in check is the most important aspect of this interview.



Decide for yourself.


This was the most important lesson I learned in government class. It is a shame more people didn't take government class to learn what makes Democracy work.
 
refusal to OBEY a LAWFUL order

she's been irrelevant for years-apparently trying to get some of the MSM Mojo back
Regardless of what you may desire law's are gauged as to their Constitutionality as proscribed by the United States Constitution not whether Constitutionally protected rights are in accordance with local, state, or federal regulation. In other words and order issued by a police officer is NOT LAWFULL if it violates a Constitutionally Protected right.
 
organized protests on public property require a protest permit, in NYC.

is to so we don't have people blocking sidewalks and streets all over the place, willy-nilly.
Constitutionall protected right Trump local public nuisance ordinances last time I checked, willy-nilly or otherwise.
 
Who determined it was an unlawful order?
No One... unfortunately you would have to petition a court to determine this..... an unfortunate situation but true none-the-less. I would have to side with you on this one.
 
I'll say it again: organized protests on public property in NYC require a protest permit.

no protest permit, means you get asked to leave once..and then you get arrested.

Olbermann himself calls it a "lawful order".
Then we have no right to peaceable assemble to petition the government for a redress of greivences as the local government can always deny our request for permit....
 
the fact is, OWS had an organized protest outside of this event. Naomin Klein was part of this protest, which of course had no protest permit as OWS doesnt believe in protest permits.

if they indeed had a permit to protest at that street, at that time, on that day...then the NYPD acted illegally and the charges will be dropped.
Can you please explain how something can both be a Constitutionally protected Right while also being something you must request permission to do?
 
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