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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    organized protests on public property require a protest permit, in NYC.

    is to so we don't have people blocking sidewalks and streets all over the place, willy-nilly.
    Constitutionall protected right Trump local public nuisance ordinances last time I checked, willy-nilly or otherwise.

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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Who determined it was an unlawful order?
    No One... unfortunately you would have to petition a court to determine this..... an unfortunate situation but true none-the-less. I would have to side with you on this one.

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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I'll say it again: organized protests on public property in NYC require a protest permit.

    no protest permit, means you get asked to leave once..and then you get arrested.

    Olbermann himself calls it a "lawful order".
    Then we have no right to peaceable assemble to petition the government for a redress of greivences as the local government can always deny our request for permit....

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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the fact is, OWS had an organized protest outside of this event. Naomin Klein was part of this protest, which of course had no protest permit as OWS doesnt believe in protest permits.

    if they indeed had a permit to protest at that street, at that time, on that day...then the NYPD acted illegally and the charges will be dropped.
    Can you please explain how something can both be a Constitutionally protected Right while also being something you must request permission to do?

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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Can you please explain how something can both be a Constitutionally protected Right while also being something you must request permission to do?
    I'm glad someone got the point.

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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I'm glad someone got the point.
    Please join me in this thread as it is currently dealing with the same issue.... I welcome and discussion/criticism of my opinions. The fact that people are so willing to abandon our rights for convenience issues quite frankly disturbs the hell out of me

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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Please join me in this thread as it is currently dealing with the same issue.... I welcome and discussion/criticism of my opinions. The fact that people are so willing to abandon our rights for convenience issues quite frankly disturbs the hell out of me
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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Constitutionall protected right Trump local public nuisance ordinances last time I checked, willy-nilly or otherwise.
    I look forward to you blasting Mayor bloomberg's anti gun rights jihad in NYC then



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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I look forward to you blasting Mayor bloomberg's anti gun rights jihad in NYC then
    You can indeed sir... Bloomberg would have to have a preponderance of evidence that somehow gun ownership in and of itself somehow poses some sort of public safety hazard (I have to admit yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater or "HIGHJACK" on a plane does in fact raise issues in my mind regarding free speech limitations). But by and large.... if it does not pose a public safety threat AND is enumerated in the Constitution I personally don't understand how any law (Federal, State or Local) can trump that.

    So yes, without further information you can consider me on your side of the NY Gun Debate.

    EDIT: Am I wrong to assume you are on the side of 2nd amendment protections? Just re-read you post and I guess I kind of assume (due to the use of the wor Jihad) that we share the same side on this one.... That guns should be allowed to be retained by the people
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    Re: Naomi Wolf explains our constitutional right to peaceful assembly

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    You can indeed sir... Bloomberg would have to have a preponderance of evidence that somehow gun ownership in and of itself somehow poses some sort of public safety hazard (I have to admit yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater or "HIGHJACK" on a plane does in fact raise issues in my mind regarding free speech limitations). But by and large.... if it does not pose a public safety threat AND is enumerated in the Constitution I personally don't understand how any law (Federal, State or Local) can trump that.

    So yes, without further information you can consider me on your side of the NY Gun Debate.

    EDIT: Am I wrong to assume you are on the side of 2nd amendment protections? Just re-read you post and I guess I kind of assume (due to the use of the wor Jihad) that we share the same side on this one.... That guns should be allowed to be retained by the people
    Bloomberg has engaged in a conspiracy to violate federal gun laws and constitutional gun rights. Its a rare combination



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