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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    why are you comparing a mass market worldwide businesses with hundreds of competitors to a short race with only 8 people? Fact is Paul is last in coverage yet was in the same position in polls as everyone else who gets headline coverage. They're not there to pick our candidates for us but to report the news. He gets 1st, 2nd, 3rd yet they ignore him either way. How you can take Bachmann seriously and not Paul is beyond human comprehension.

    Well whatever, we've been vindicated even though we didn't need a scientific poll to tell us the that.
    If you don't believe it, fine.
    But it is truth whether you want to believe it or not.

    Agree to disagree.

    Not like it matters anymore, we've been doing it without the same coverage as the other candidates yet our numbers grows. The other gop candidates are doing a better job at helping our cause anyway.

    Tbh, I'm already use to it that it only slightly bothers me now. There is a new one each day so I try not to bother with it.

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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    I wish they would give him more time during the debates. The outlandish things he says are a hoot.

    One of the funniest was that a border fence with Mexico was designed to keep Americans IN !! Only Ron Paul would say something that ignorant.

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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    *Ron Paul at 15%*
    Media: Republicans will never accept a candidate like this. We have seen no evidence that he can expand his base of support beyond his few loyal followers and so we can ignore him.
    That statement is true. Another of his outlying opinions that did make news this time around, legalizing heroin. A vast number of GOP voters are law-and-order and will never buy that either. They believe in the war on drugs will fight hard against legalizing pot. Legal heroin? Unimaginable to them.
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Ron Paul is the same dude saying the same stuff from four years ago. The only difference is that he is four years older. He is a known quantity. He's not worthy of news coverage because, simply put, he's not news. But it's true that he's a hell of a lot smarter than morons like Bachmann and Santorum, and a better debater than the likes of Perry.

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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I wish they would give him more time during the debates. The outlandish things he says are a hoot.

    One of the funniest was that a border fence with Mexico was designed to keep Americans IN !! Only Ron Paul would say something that ignorant.
    That's not what he said. He said the DOWNSIDE of a border fence would be that it could be potentially be used to keep Americans in, as well as keep illegals out, which is true. The installation of a border fence, like other forms of strict immigration enforcement - reduces movement and population flow, and commerce across a political border in BOTH DIRECTIONS.

    He was not in support of a fence that keeps us in. The real ignorance lies in people not being able to read or listen carefully.
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That's not what he said. He said the DOWNSIDE of a border fence would be that it could be potentially be used to keep Americans in, as well as keep illegals out, which is true. The installation of a border fence, like other forms of strict immigration enforcement - reduces movement and population flow, and commerce across a political border in BOTH DIRECTIONS.

    He was not in support of a fence that keeps us in. The real ignorance lies in people not being able to read or listen carefully.
    Same thing. It's still an absurd comment. I haven't heard of too many Americans sneaking across the border to Mexico.

    The exact quote leaves little doubt:

    “Every time you think about this toughness on the border and ID cards and REAL IDs, think it’s a penalty against the American people too. I think this fence business is designed and may well be used against us and keep us in. In economic turmoil, the people want to leave with their capital and there’s capital controls and there’s people controls. Every time you think about the fence, think about the fences being used against us, keeping us in.”
    He's not much better than the "rent's too damn high" guy.
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    That statement is true. Another of his outlying opinions that did make news this time around, legalizing heroin. A vast number of GOP voters are law-and-order and will never buy that either. They believe in the war on drugs will fight hard against legalizing pot. Legal heroin? Unimaginable to them.
    There is a very large constituency among Republicans that support legalizing drugs, a constituency much larger than the support Ron Paul gets presently. I imagine there is also a considerable number who, in addition, would support a candidate in spite of such a position. Not to mention independents and Democrats who might vote in a primary or caucus. The reality of the situation is that none of his supposedly controversial positions are going to impede his candidacy. His approval ratings show that he has potential support well above what is necessary to win the nomination and polls indicate he would also stand a very good chance of winning the presidency.

    It is not his positions that have kept him low in polls. Honestly, go back to the OP and consider the implication of those figures. For someone who gets so little time in the media to be so high in the polls must tell you that he has more room to grow.

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Ron Paul is the same dude saying the same stuff from four years ago. The only difference is that he is four years older. He is a known quantity. He's not worthy of news coverage because, simply put, he's not news. But it's true that he's a hell of a lot smarter than morons like Bachmann and Santorum, and a better debater than the likes of Perry.
    Romney is a known quantity in every respect, including his known flip-flopping. The media themselves have given their defense and it mainly focuses on the idea that Paul can't win. Do you not find that rather bizarre given that he frequently comes in third nationally?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. The same applies for everything else in life. Who is the #5 mp3 player maker in the world? What about the #4th biggest retail chain in the world? Maybe you could tell us which chain is 2 spots behind McDonald's on fast food? Do you think if those guys were in the news more often, they'd sell more? No. Appeal is the issue at hand. I'm surprised that the great "Demon of Light" didn't get that appeal is the word of the day when it comes to politics, business, economics etc. Ron Paul? Appeals to a few teenagers and fat Libertarians. Romney and Perry appeal to the GOP.
    Hatuey, your comparisons are complete nonsense. Yet even in those cases there is something to be said for increasing brand-name recognition. That alone can, in fact, lead to more sales. With a candidate there is another matter entirely however. Voters are driven by many notions and concepts that the media have become adept at manipulating. People like voting for "candidates that can win" and that is something the media make a point of determining on their own well before the actual election. Also the word "fringe" creates a very negative perception and people generally don't look at whether it is a fair use of the term.
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    There is a very large constituency among Republicans that support legalizing drugs, a constituency much larger than the support Ron Paul gets presently. I imagine there is also a considerable number who, in addition, would support a candidate in spite of such a position. Not to mention independents and Democrats who might vote in a primary or caucus. The reality of the situation is that none of his supposedly controversial positions are going to impede his candidacy. His approval ratings show that he has potential support well above what is necessary to win the nomination and polls indicate he would also stand a very good chance of winning the presidency.

    It is not his positions that have kept him low in polls. Honestly, go back to the OP and consider the implication of those figures. For someone who gets so little time in the media to be so high in the polls must tell you that he has more room to grow.
    Nothing I will say will convince you otherwise. I'll just add that as to those independents and Democrats for whom his legalized drugs stance might appeal, the fact he wants to eliminate the DOE and does not support Medicare either, will lose him their support. Tit-for-tat.

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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Romney is a known quantity in every respect, including his known flip-flopping. The media themselves have given their defense and it mainly focuses on the idea that Paul can't win. Do you not find that rather bizarre given that he frequently comes in third nationally?
    According to Gallup, Paul is currently fourth in the polls among GOP voters/conservatives. He's not really doing that much hotter than the likes of Bachmann, Santorum, and Gingrich.

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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That's not what he said. He said the DOWNSIDE of a border fence would be that it could be potentially be used to keep Americans in, as well as keep illegals out, which is true. The installation of a border fence, like other forms of strict immigration enforcement - reduces movement and population flow, and commerce across a political border in BOTH DIRECTIONS.

    He was not in support of a fence that keeps us in. The real ignorance lies in people not being able to read or listen carefully.
    you waste your time explaining these things to the brain dead electorate.

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