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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Does this mean that the money that controls Mass Media has already chosen our GOP candidate and it is not Ron Paul?
    I'l say it once again...

    You, Republican voters, were suppose to pick the 2012 GOP hopeful by watching the debates as aired on FoxNews and other television media outlets. You were suppose to learn more about your primary candidate based on how well the contenders performed during each debate. This wasn't suppose to be done by some "selection by media bias" or "favorable wealthy/corporate donorthon" to determine your leading candidate. YOU were suppose to pick the candidate that went up against President Obama. Seems to me, you're voices aren't being heard either.

    Hmmmm....

    Are you going to let the Koch Brothers and other media moguls get away with it? Seems to me they're picking the winners and losers, not you.

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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you guys remember when Tiger Woods was number one? Well, do you remember who the third best in the world was? Neither do I. How about when Nadal was #1 in the world? Do you remember who was #3? #4 maybe? No? Neither do I. Do you guys think if the media had given coverage to whomever was #3 and #4 maybe something would have been different? Maybe #3 and #4 would have risen to #1 because of the media? No? Neither do I. Ron Paul is #3 for a reason fellows.
    I know it may be hard to tell the difference with all the flashy graphics and obsession over statistics from the news media, but politics isn't a sport Hatuey. Also, sports coverage doesn't go out of its way to conceal what team came in third.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    little to nothing is new about Ron Paul
    The same could be said for Romney yet he is constantly put forward as the man to beat in the election.

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    That was pretty awful. I don't blame him.

    That's Fox for ya!
    Fox is just the most blatant offender. Look at where Herman Cain was in the polls before the media storm over the Florida straw poll and where he was after. When Ron Paul won the GOP straw poll in California, however, CNN tossed it aside saying these straw poll victories did not mean much. There was a notable incident involving the New York Times after the Ames straw poll where Paul came within a hair of taking first from Bachmann and the report on the results was "Bachmann first, Pawlenty third" as though Paul almost winning was not worthy of headlines and that mirrored how a lot of other major outlets covered the story.

    The entire media is working against Ron Paul's candidacy. It is not a factional dispute where one outlet tries to promote him and others don't like you have with the Occupiers or Tea Party. All of the major media are doing their utmost to downplay and attack Ron Paul.
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Is Paul being covered on the 'fair & balanced' channel?
    I don't think Faux News likes him either.



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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    The same could be said for Romney yet he is constantly put forward as the man to beat in the election.
    I would almost agree with you that Romney is nothing new, except that his flip flops are what makes news.



    Fox is just the most blatant offender. Look at where Herman Cain was in the polls before the media storm over the Florida straw poll and where he was after. When Ron Paul won the GOP straw poll in California, however, CNN tossed it aside saying these straw poll victories did not mean much. There was a notable incident involving the New York Times after the Ames straw poll where Paul came within a hair of taking first from Bachmann and the report on the results was "Bachmann first, Pawlenty third" as though Paul almost winning was not worthy of headlines and that mirrored how a lot of other major outlets covered the story.

    The entire media is working against Ron Paul's candidacy. It is not a factional dispute where one outlet tries to promote him and others don't like you have with the Occupiers or Tea Party. All of the major media are doing their utmost to downplay and attack Ron Paul.
    Again, with all due respect to Paul's supporters, he may come close or win straw polls, but he never goes beyond a certain percentage of supporters. You may chalk it up to the lack of attention he gets, but some of his positions are outside the mainstream of Republican support, the party he defaults to, and that will limit his ability to capture the nomination. For instance, they don't want to hear America's foreign policy invited the attack on 9/11.
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Paul supporters bitch and moan about this constantly, and keep forgetting that their candidate was not the only one who has not had much attention. Apparently, only their candidate is getting shut out, and that it has nothing to do with how many people react with "meh."
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I just hope Ron Paul is sincere and legit. It would suck to find out RP is also in league with the beginings of the "NWO" and is simply their last trump card. A "false prophet" in a sense.
    Oh sweet Jesus-tap dancing-Christ. Are the Masons still pulling strings too?
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Oh sweet Jesus-tap dancing-Christ. Are the Masons still pulling strings too?
    *nods*

    I saw it on the History Channel.


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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Paul supporters bitch and moan about this constantly, and keep forgetting that their candidate was not the only one who has not had much attention. Apparently, only their candidate is getting shut out, and that it has nothing to do with how many people react with "meh."
    Well if he was dead last in polls and near dead last then yeah, I would understand. But when you're in top teir status and they go out of there way to ignore you....we have a problem. The highest polling, least covered candidate.



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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Again, with all due respect to Paul's supporters, he may come close or win straw polls, but he never goes beyond a certain percentage of supporters. You may chalk it up to the lack of attention he gets, but some of his positions are outside the mainstream of Republican support, the party he defaults to, and that will limit his ability to capture the nomination. For instance, they don't want to hear America's foreign policy invited the attack on 9/11.
    I get this is the media's standard excuse for suppressing the Paul vote, but that is not how it actually works. Let me explain to you how this plays out in reality:

    *Ron Paul at 1%*
    Media: This candidate clearly stands no chance of breaking through and so we can ignore him. (seemingly reasonable)
    *Ron Paul at 5%*
    Media: He needs to get more than that to be a serious contender. There is no reason to believe he can win a single state, let alone the nomination and so we can ignore him. (still somewhat logical)
    *Ron Paul at 10%*
    Media: Maybe he has a very devoted pool of supporters but there is no indication that can build those numbers up to where he can win a race and so we can ignore him. (Becoming a lot less credible)
    *Ron Paul at 15%*
    Media: Republicans will never accept a candidate like this. We have seen no evidence that he can expand his base of support beyond his few loyal followers and so we can ignore him. (bordering on desperation)

    Their tactics have become so obvious that you can basically tell where it will go at higher levels. Honestly, I have given this thought and I think with the media campaign against Paul he would have to get nothing but straight wins through Florida for them to begin treating him seriously. We would probably see arguments like "Paul put a lot of money into this small state using a caucus that is more ideal for his organizational capabilities and devoted supporters and he will likely not be able to replicate these results in a primary" were he to win Iowa. A win in Iowa and New Hampshire would probably be greeted with remarks like "he is unlikely going to be able to replicate these results in larger state primaries so these results do not really mean anything" despite the nominee traditionally winning one of those states.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Paul supporters bitch and moan about this constantly, and keep forgetting that their candidate was not the only one who has not had much attention.
    Not having much attention is different from a blatantly obvious blackout on a candidate regardless of that candidate's place in the polls.

    Apparently, only their candidate is getting shut out, and that it has nothing to do with how many people react with "meh."
    Other candidates get shut out for sure, but the media at least can point to poll numbers in those cases. However, Ron Paul can be getting double digit support yet come dead last in media coverage and debate time. It amazes me how someone can look at those figures or the completely different reactions to straw poll results favoring Cain compared to those favoring Paul and still appeal to some bizarre notion that a for-profit industry dependent on big business for funding and good relations with the political elite for access would still somehow be looking out for the interests of the people at large.
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    Re: Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I know it may be hard to tell the difference with all the flashy graphics and obsession over statistics from the news media, but politics isn't a sport Hatuey. Also, sports coverage doesn't go out of its way to conceal what team came in third.
    Don't be ridiculous. The same applies for everything else in life. Who is the #5 mp3 player maker in the world? What about the #4th biggest retail chain in the world? Maybe you could tell us which chain is 2 spots behind McDonald's on fast food? Do you think if those guys were in the news more often, they'd sell more? No. Appeal is the issue at hand. I'm surprised that the great "Demon of Light" didn't get that appeal is the word of the day when it comes to politics, business, economics etc. Ron Paul? Appeals to a few teenagers and fat Libertarians. Romney and Perry appeal to the GOP.
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