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Jamie Hubley, Gay 15-Year-Old Ottawa, Canada Teen Commits Suicide

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The story can be found here (Jamie Hubley, Gay 15-Year-Old Ottawa, Canada Teen Commits Suicide, Cites Depression, School Troubles)


I just wanted to bring this to people's attention. Personally, this story is very saddening. This prompts me to ask the question: How do you think we can end this trend of gay teen suicides?

I think that this only shows why we need to create strict rules and enforce them when it comes to bullying, especially when it comes to matters such as these. I think that there should be an open network of parents, teachers, and school counselors which a kid can come to and talk about their problems.

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Jamie Hubley, a gay 15 year old from Ottawa, Canada, committed suicide on Friday.

The 10th grade student documented his life, including his depression and the hardships of being a gay teen, in a blog, reports the http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports...rtbreaking+need+acceptance/5559352/story.htmlOttawa Citizenhttp://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports...rtbreaking+need+acceptance/5559352/story.html.
The blog, called "You Can't Break... When You're Already Broken" featured posts with numerous references to and photos of self harm and cutting, pictures of guys kissing and mentions of wanting a boyfriend, and bleak, ominous messages like "Sometimes I wish the breeze would just take me with it," "The only thing worse than being hated is being ignored. At least when they hate you they treat you like you exist," and "Suicides is always an option."

 
This prompts me to ask the question: How do you think we can end this trend of gay teen suicides?
Is it a trend? I know there's been more noise about it recently, but that's not the same thing.
 
Is it a trend? I know there's been more noise about it recently, but that's not the same thing.

Well, it may or may not be a trend. But still, that aside, how do you think we can attempt to curb the amount, if not completely end, teen suicides, especially among those of the LGBT community?
 
Well, it may or may not be a trend. But still, that aside, how do you think we can attempt to curb the amount, if not completely end, teen suicides, especially among those of the LGBT community?

You can't. Why would you single out the LGBT community?
 
The suicide of any child is sad. I'll bet more straight kids kill themselves than gay kids. Why are gay suicides more important than straight suicides?
 
The suicide of any child is sad. I'll bet more straight kids kill themselves than gay kids.

Probably, in absolute numbers. I would guess however, although I have not looked for any figures to back this up, that gay students kill themselves in higher percentages. The suicide of any student, gay or straight, is a terrible tragedy though.
 
You can't. Why would you single out the LGBT community?

Did you read carefully what I wrote?

"how do you think we can attempt to curb the amount, if not completely end, teen suicides, especially among those of the LGBT community?"
 
Yes, it's a tragedy. It's not only gay people who commit suicide, though.
 
Did you read carefully what I wrote?

"how do you think we can attempt to curb the amount, if not completely end, teen suicides, especially among those of the LGBT community?"

Cut their tax rates?
 
You don't "fix" gay suicide by making life more difficult/unfair for straight people.
 
You don't "fix" gay suicide by making life more difficult/unfair for straight people.

Who suggested making life more difficult or unfair for straight people?
 
Who suggested making life more difficult or unfair for straight people?

It depends on what the OP means by "Curb".

To make any change because of suicide will undoubtedly create differences in finances/whatever. I don't know what the OP has in mind, but I don't think gay suicides should be given special attention over straight suicides. All suicide is equally sad.
 
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afaict, nimh doesn't track sexual orientation of suicides and suicide attempts
 
Well, it may or may not be a trend. But still, that aside, how do you think we can attempt to curb the amount, if not completely end, teen suicides, especially among those of the LGBT community?

Beg pardon, but what do you mean?

Why not focus on all suicides?
 
You don't "fix" gay suicide by making life more difficult/unfair for straight people.

Do you have any examples of anyone trying to do this?
 
You don't "fix" gay suicide by making life more difficult/unfair for straight people.

Yes, it's a tragedy. It's not only gay people who commit suicide, though.

Never said that. Please read.


It depends on what the OP means by "Curb".

To make any change because of suicide will undoubtedly create differences in finances/whatever. I don't know what the OP has in mind, but I don't think gay suicides should be given special attention over straight suicides. All suicide is equally sad.

What do you think I mean by "curb"? Looking at it in context, its pretty obvious what I mean.
 
Do you have any examples of anyone trying to do this?

Of course not. I never said that was the case, Your Star. However, if someone WERE to do so, then there would be a problem. Merely, I am wonering what sort of "plan" the OP is thinking up. That's all. ;-)
 
Of course not. I never said that was the case, Your Star. However, if someone WERE to do so, then there would be a problem. Merely, I am wonering what sort of "plan" the OP is thinking up. That's all. ;-)

I believe the OP stated his plan in the first post.

I think that this only shows why we need to create strict rules and enforce them when it comes to bullying, especially when it comes to matters such as these. I think that there should be an open network of parents, teachers, and school counselors which a kid can come to and talk about their problems.
 
Never said that. Please read.




What do you think I mean by "curb"? Looking at it in context, its pretty obvious what I mean.

*Sigh*

What do you mean by: "how do you think we can attempt to curb the amount, if not completely end, teen suicides, especially among those of the LGBT community?"

Obviously, you seem to think something should be done, when nothing really needs to be done because all suicide is a tragedy. I dislike playing careful games of cat and mouse. Tell me why you think gay suicides are more important? Obviously, if you did NOT think gay suicides more important, then you would not create this thread about curbing gay suicides among the LGBT community.

It's simple. Tell us what you think and why.
 
Of course not. I never said that was the case, Your Star. However, if someone WERE to do so, then there would be a problem. Merely, I am wonering what sort of "plan" the OP is thinking up. That's all. ;-)

Thats not what I got from the OP. The fact is gay teens commit suicide in a higher percentage then their peers, and more education about homosexuality/transgenderism, as well as actual counselors in the school(which any student could utilize, not just LGBT teens) would be helpful.
 
I believe the OP stated his plan in the first post.

I agree bullying is wrong, with the caveat that all bullying is wrong and that many bullied children, straight and gay, commit suicide.

I want to know exactly what plans the OP has. I don't want a plan like Affirmative Action for gay/straight suicides, or something of the sort.
 
Thats not what I got from the OP. The fact is gay teens commit suicide in a higher percentage then their peers, and more education about homosexuality/transgenderism, as well as actual counselors in the school(which any student could utilize, not just LGBT teens) would be helpful.

So more liberal ideology should be pumped into the public school system? Instead, how about put strict punishments against bullying?
 
I agree bullying is wrong, with the caveat that all bullying is wrong and that many bullied children, straight and gay, commit suicide.

I want to know exactly what plans the OP has. I don't want a plan like Affirmative Action for gay/straight suicides, or something of the sort.

I stated my plan, which can be applied to all suicides. It is not Affirmative Action for anyone.
 
I stated my plan, which can be applied to all suicides. It is not Affirmative Action for anyone.

Good. That is all the inquisitor wanted to know.

I think that this only shows why we need to create strict rules and enforce them when it comes to bullying, especially when it comes to matters such as these. I think that there should be an open network of parents, teachers, and school counselors which a kid can come to and talk about their problems.

Yeah, bullying is wrong. IF people want to make this into a special program for LGBT people, that is when it can become a problem.
 
So more liberal ideology should be pumped into the public school system? Instead, how about put strict punishments against bullying?

Not liberal ideology, just comprehensive sex education, and free access to mental health professionals, which would cut down on all suicides, not just LGBT suicides.
 
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