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Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street Movem

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TheDemSocialist said:
Same here... None was seen... Just a Ron Paul supporter that was the cause of most of the "ruckus"
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"End the fed!"

Am I right?

We had a couple of them as well.
 
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Bardo said:
I didn't see any at my local occupation either. :shrug:
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We cannot accept ANY racism/anti-Semitism/homophobia, etc...to be expressed at these events. This is about unity...NOT division. Any folks who make such comments should be asked to stop..and if they don't stop asked to leave.

And if they don't leave, exposed and called-out as the ignorant bigots that they are.
 
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TurtleDude said:
I suspect that most of those lamers, trust fund idiots, refuse to workniks and other losers would get their asses kicked by a bunch of skinheads
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As someone who has spent a great deal of time with modern "hippies", I wouldn't let their looks fool you. I've seen some dramatic ass woopins handed out by barefoot guys in tye dye. Saw a great big hippie mama in dreadlocks and a peasant skirt pound a redneck who said something to her kid that pissed her off. Granted I don't think he expected it and she got in a couple great shots early on.

LSS, the whole "hippies are wimps meme" is a dangerously inaccurate one.
 
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What if...? said:
As someone who has spent a great deal of time with modern "hippies", I wouldn't let their looks fool you. I've seen some dramatic ass woopins handed out by barefoot guys in tye dye. Saw a great big hippie mama in dreadlocks and a peasant skirt pound a redneck who said something to her kid that pissed her off. Granted I don't think he expected it and she got in a couple great shots early on.

LSS, the whole "hippies are wimps meme" is a dangerously inaccurate one.
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I rather put that in the parent defending her kid category vs the hippie actually knowing how to fight.
 
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Cold Highway said:
I rather put that in the parent defending her kid category vs the hippie actually knowing how to fight.
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It's a stereotype either way. Sometimes you'll find a stereotype in real life, and sometimes believing in such a stereotype can come back to bite you.
 
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Bardo said:
Do you have anything to say about this, or no?
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Do with it what you will.
 
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Bardo said:
Do you have anything to say about this, or no?
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i don't know about him.. but speaking for myself, this is a pretty big strike against them from me....I am extremely bigoted against Communists and Nazis.
if others wish to show solidarity with them, so be it... but if one thing would turn me totally against a movement, it would be the inclusion of Communists or Nazis.
 
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Josie said:
What site? I thought there weren't any leaders of this?
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I'm sorry, are there leaders behind every site you read?

I understand yoire trying to make the point that either they are an inarticulate mob or usefule idiots in a conspiracy to topple the country.

What you are missing is all those general assemblies with all that finger wagging.

This is a consensus process. I strongly doubt that idiocy will be arrived at by consensus. In fact, from my experience, very little is ever agreed to by consensus.

There's lots of communists associated with the Rainbow Family, of various flavors. There's also lots of people with first hand experience with communism who clearly state that it doesn't work above small groups of like minded and like abled people. And even then suffers from issues devolving from the egos competent people tend to have.

We live in a world of spin. Most of what you have posted has been selected for you to evoke the response you are having.

I promise its not as bad as you think. I can't prove it, but I wouldn't lie to you.

Getting liberals in line is like herding cats, and there are a lot of good, responsible people to counter the wackos.
 
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Thrilla said:
i don't know about him.. but speaking for myself, this is a pretty big strike against them from me....I am extremely bigoted against Communists and Nazis.
if others wish to show solidarity with them, so be it... but if one thing would turn me totally against a movement, it would be the inclusion of Communists or Nazis.
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I'm quite intolerant of Nazis myself.

But this doesn't negate the legitimacy of the entire movement because a few Nazis support it. If you supported the Tea Party, would you start opposing it if the KKK endorsed it or if some fascists showed up?

Hitler loved the circus, that doesn't make the circus a Nazi get together.
 
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Hitler loved his two dogs. By the logic of the OP, this makes all dog-lovers.....National Socialists.
 
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Thunder said:
Hitler loved his two dogs. By the logic of the OP, this makes all dog-lovers.....National Socialists.
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Better yet, they were German shepards and I own German shepards!

What have I become??
 
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Josie said:
What?......
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KKK folks standing with OWS folks, side by side.

Group a announcing support for group b doesn't make group b the same as group a. Or prove any relationship as it was a unilateral endorsement on the part of group a.

The protestin hippies I know don't take too kindly to racist folks. I'm SURE they would confront people carrying racist signs and ask them to leave.

As I'm also sure the Blaze or any other conservative media outlet would never post video of this occurring. So you would never know.
 
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Bardo said:
. If you supported the Tea Party, would you start opposing it if the KKK endorsed it or if some fascists showed up? .
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The difference is that most tea partiers would publicly denounce the KKK and ask them to leave their rallies (that actually happened at a tea party rally). They would completely separate themselves from them. The OWS protesters aren't separating themselves from the socialists, communists or anarchists. Quite the contrary, from what I've seen. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
 
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What if...? said:
KKK folks standing with OWS folks, side by side....
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A anti-Semite named Sepheroth2009 yesterday accused "Zionist Jews" of seeking to raise taxes on the American people.

By the logic of the OP, this makes all Conservatives who want lower taxes and condemn Democrats for wanting higher taxes for the wealthy, anti-Semitic conspiracy-theorists.
 
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Josie said:
..They would completely separate themselves from them. The OWS protesters aren't separating themselves from the socialists, communists or anarchists. Quite the contrary, from what I've seen. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
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As would I. The OWS allowing Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, and other extreme-leftists usurp their movement are making a fatal mistake that may doom their movement.
 
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Whatif, you asked me to post pictures of a hypothetical situation. Thus, the "What?" from me.
 
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Josie said:
The difference is that most tea partiers would publicly denounce the KKK and ask them to leave their rallies (that actually happened at a tea party rally). They would completely separate themselves from them. The OWS protesters aren't separating themselves from the socialists, communists or anarchists. Quite the contrary, from what I've seen. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
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I really dont consider these "anarchists" of the actual black flag kind. They're more or less liberal douchebags who think anarchy is cool all of a sudden. Real anarchists are against the state and its thugs entirely, not sicking the carde of thugs on one group of people vs another.
 
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apdst said:
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Brits and Americans hated each other once, too. The French and the British. The Americans and the Soviets.
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Commies and Nazis is Jews and Arabs, though.

And anarchists don't follow, they join, conditionally. And they REALLY hate racist skinheads.

Completely different situation.
 
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Josie said:
The difference is that most tea partiers would publicly denounce the KKK and ask them to leave their rallies (that actually happened at a tea party rally). They would completely separate themselves from them. The OWS protesters aren't separating themselves from the socialists, communists or anarchists. Quite the contrary, from what I've seen. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
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I'm sure OWS would separate themselves from the KKK too. However as a socialist I don't mind there being socialists present at OWS. :p
 
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Cold Highway said:
I really dont consider these "anarchists" of the actual black flag kind. They're more or less liberal douchebags who think anarchy is cool all of a sudden. Real anarchists are against the state and its thugs entirely, not sicking the carde of thugs on one group of people vs another.
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There is historical precedent that would suggest otherwise. The communists and the anarchists initially forged an alliance against the fascists in Spain. although they ended up splitting from each other eventually.
 
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Bardo said:
I'm sure OWS would separate themselves from the KKK too. However as a socialist I don't mind there being socialists present at OWS. :p
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I'm sure they would too. I just don't understand why they wouldn't separate themselves from the others when they supposedly have completely different goals and ideas for this country.
 
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Josie said:
I have yet to see them standing side by side with them and I also have yet to hear anyone from OWS denounce them. You?
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I am an anarchist who used to think I believed in socialism (actually its mixed economies I support, thanks DP!) who actually participated in an experiment in communism.

I terrorize racists at every opportunity.

So no, I don't agree with you.

Some of these groups do have ideas that would indeed be harmful. They'll never pass muster with the group as a whole.
 
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OWS should learn a little history, especially the fact that under Communism, Democrats & Liberals were imprisoned and/or killed.

This is part of why I hate Communism and do NOT associate with them, except to call-out their evil & hypocrisy.
 
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nota bene said:
At first I thought it was pretty perverse. But they say that "Judeo-Capitalists" are the "#1 enemy." They're so crazy and hateful that maybe in some twisted way, they really are finding common ground with OWS.
WhiteHonor » The ‘Occupy Wall Street’ Movement
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From a certain perspective, if the Commies and Nazis agree about something, maybe there IS a problem!
 
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Thunder said:
OWS should learn a little history, especially the fact that under Communism, Democrats & Liberals were imprisoned and/or killed.

This is part of why I hate Communism and do NOT associate with them, except to call-out their evil & hypocrisy.
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That doesn't make any sense. You hate communism because some communists imprisoned and/or killed democrats and liberals. First of all, ideologies don't act so hating an ideology because of actions that people commit doesn't make much sense. Second, when did communists imprison/kill Democrats?
 
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