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    Re: Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street M

    Thank God! At last the Nazis and Commies have come together to live and work in harmony. I feel like playing a Joan Biaz album. "Where's my boots"?
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How do you figure that?
    Reagan didn't repeal Medicaid, Medicare, nor Social Security.

    therefore, you consider him a Socialist..right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Anarchy is commonly perceived as the farthest right you can go on the left/right paradigm.

    the extreme right represents absence of government.. the further left you go, the more government is present, centralized, and intrusive.

    you seem to be confusing anarchy with contemporary conservatism, for some reason.
    Contemporary conservatism worships property rights that can only exist with the protection of government.

    That and a slew of morality laws that also require the existence of a government.

    I don't see ANY evidence that modern conservatism wants NO government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    social democrats and Democrats are two different things. I don't think any communists have killed any Democrats. Moreover, it's still illogical to condemn an entire ideology because of what some people did.
    Communism isn't even an ideology.

    Its a ****ing economic philosophy.

    Capitalism isnt an ideology either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Communism isn't even an ideology.

    Its a ****ing economic philosophy.

    Capitalism isnt an ideology either.
    Communism is a social, political and economic movement that aims at the establishment of a classless and stateless communist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production. This ideology significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which witnessed intense rivalry between the "socialist world" (communist states) and the "capitalist world" (countries with market economy and democratic forms of government), culminated in the Cold War between the Eastern bloc and the "Free World".
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    Prison Planet.com Nearly a Third of ‘Occupy’ Protesters Advocate Violence

    The right-wing conspiracy theorists, anti-Semites, and paranoid fools at Prisonplanet are against OWS.

    Surprise, surprise. I guess by the logic of the OP, this makes all who oppose OWS, paranoid right-wing CTists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How do you figure that?
    http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/20...s-on-the-rich/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    List of political ideologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Communism with a capital C is an ideology based on an economic philosophy.

    The Soviet Union was a standard top-down system with a semblance of communism for the masses. Essentially one of the biggest con jobs in history. The top 1% in the Soviet Union ruled the 80% with the help of 20%. Just like always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    List of political ideologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Communism with a capital C is an ideology based on an economic philosophy.

    The Soviet Union was a standard top-down system with a semblance of communism for the masses. Essentially one of the biggest con jobs in history. The top 1% in the Soviet Union ruled the 80% with the help of 20%. Just like always.
    So you admit it's an ideology. Good. Will you acknowedge that "Communism is a social, political and economic movement that aims at the establishment of a classless and stateless communist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production."

    Don't tell me it's "just an economic philosophy." It's very much a system based on morals, Karl Marx's morals to be exact, seeing as how he created the Communist Manifesto. Communism is a moral philosophy that doesn't work in reality. Communism expects people to act according to the virtues/morals of the ideology, which is probably one reason why it keeps failing---because people don't stick to communism's morals/values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    So you admit it's an ideology. Good. Will you acknowedge that "Communism is a social, political and economic movement that aims at the establishment of a classless and stateless communist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production."

    Don't tell me it's "just an economic philosophy." It's very much a system based on morals, Karl Marx's morals to be exact, seeing as how he created the Communist Manifesto. Communism is a moral philosophy that doesn't work in reality. Communism expects people to act according to the virtues/morals of the ideology, which is probably one reason why it keeps failing---because people don't stick to communism's morals/values.
    I actually participated in an experiment in communism that failed for the reasons it always fails. No incentive for excellence. The same reward for the most productive as for the least.

    Marx didn't invent communism. We ALL lived communally when we were hunter-gatherers.

    Existing primitive cultures still do. Its pro-survival for small groups.

    It stops working when societies get big enough that they adopt hierarchies and the management class. Then they stop being true meritocracies and fall prey to nepotism, cronyism, and all the other joys of hierarchical systems.

    The Soviet Union was NOT communism in its pure philosophical form.

    It was a top down hierarchy, just like we have here.

    It was NOT from each according to his abilities, to each according to their means. Some people were more equal than others. Party members enjoyed a much higher quality of life than the rest of the population.
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