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    Re: Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street M

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Anarchy is commonly perceived as the farthest right you can go on the left/right paradigm.

    the extreme right represents absence of government.. the further left you go, the more government is present, centralized, and intrusive.

    you seem to be confusing anarchy with contemporary conservatism, for some reason.
    There's LOTS of common perceptions of anarchism that are completely wrong.

    Modern conservatism sure does have a lot of rules they want enforced.

    Not the least of which are property rights and enforcement of contracts.

    Can't see how you can have any of that if nobody can MAKE anybody else do or not do anything.

    Or any way your way can ever lead to this.

    So maybe anarchy doesn't really belong on the left right scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Just out of curiousity, do you actually check under your bed at night to see if the dreaded 'liberals' are waiting to get you when you fall asleep? You guys on the far Right are a hoot! Still, it's always good to have enemies, isn't it? That way you can always have a ready excuse for extremism.
    Having enemies is not a good thing, but it is a reality. Communists, Socialists and Facists are definitely enemies of any free society.
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    Re: Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street M

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Having enemies is not a good thing, but it is a reality. Communists, Socialists and Facists are definitely enemies of any free society.
    But at the same time not allowing themselves to express themselves freely is also in direct opposition to a free society in which freedom of thought and expression no matter how absurd and ridiculous is respected, which is why it's a testament to the freedoms America provides when the supreme court of the United States allows the Westboro Baptist church to protest dead soldiers funerals much to the dismay of me and you!

    Guilt by association is a weapon of the enemy you claim to oppose, and the OWS has no control of who endorses it and who doesn't anymore then the Tea party does who just happened to have a member of the KKK and white supremacist movement endorse it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But at the same time not allowing themselves to express themselves freely is also in direct opposition to a free society in which freedom of thought and expression no matter how absurd and ridiculous is respected, which is why it's a testament to the freedoms America provides when the supreme court of the United States allows the Westboro Baptist church to protest dead soldiers funerals much to the dismay of me and you!

    Guilt by association is a weapon of the enemy you claim to oppose, and the OWS has no control of who endorses it and who doesn't anymore then the Tea party does who just happened to have a member of the KKK and white supremacist movement endorse it.
    Again, for the umpteenth time: no one is saying that the occupiers don't have the right to say what they please.

    Stop acting as if I don't have the right to criticize their stupid asses.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    The difference is that most tea partiers would publicly denounce the KKK and ask them to leave their rallies (that actually happened at a tea party rally). They would completely separate themselves from them. The OWS protesters aren't separating themselves from the socialists, communists or anarchists. Quite the contrary, from what I've seen. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
    And yet they did not do that to the many racists who showed up to Tea Party rallies until the negative publicity got extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    social democrats and Democrats are two different things. I don't think any communists have killed any Democrats. Moreover, it's still illogical to condemn an entire ideology because of what some people did.
    This.

    There is also historical context that has to acknowledged. The early days of the Soviet Union had to deal with WWI, the revolution, a counter revolution, a civil war, several invasion attempts, famine, and WWII all within two decades. This coupled with Lenin's early death and the subsequent power vacuum pretty much set the tone for Stalin's reign.

    I'm not one to defend the authoritarian nature of the soviet union and the satellite communist countries that were dependent on them, but it's important to consider how they got there.
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    Re: Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street M

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Socialistic handouts?

    Listen, if Obama didn't bailout the corporations and the banks, the US would be doomed financially. They are the biggest part of the system, if they failed, everything fails. They are the foundations of the US economy, like most economies of the developed world
    Actually, Bush did that and the prognostications are opinion at best.

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    Re: Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street M

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Anarchy is commonly perceived as the farthest right you can go on the left/right paradigm.

    the extreme right represents absence of government.. the further left you go, the more government is present, centralized, and intrusive.

    you seem to be confusing anarchy with contemporary conservatism, for some reason.
    This is just wrong, flat out.

    Left =/= more government
    Right =/= less government

    There are libertarian leftists and there are authoritarian rightists. American politics operate on such a small sliver of the global political spectrum it's crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    This is just wrong, flat out.

    Left =/= more government
    Right =/= less government

    There are libertarian leftists and there are authoritarian rightists. American politics operate on such a small sliver of the global political spectrum it's crazy.
    You're wasting time. You can't argue with someone that's created their own definitions and their own reality in order to just say "us good you bad". Most probably don't even realize it's John Bircher propaganda from the 50's regurgitated.
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    Re: Nazi Party & Communist Party Both Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street M

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And yet they did not do that to the many racists who showed up to Tea Party rallies until the negative publicity got extreme.
    Still pushing the same old lie. Guess what? It doesn't matter how many times you tell a lie, it will always be a lie.
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