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Emails: Bush-Era Embassy, Prosecutor's Office Approved ATF 'Gun Walking' Tactic

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I haven't followed the "Fast and Furious" story, but here is some news conservatives/Fox News can suck on.

Emails: Bush-Era Embassy, Prosecutor's Office Approved ATF 'Gun Walking' Tactic | TPMMuckraker


As House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) continues to try to pin the flawed "gun walking" tactic employed in Operation Fast and Furious on the Obama administration, it's becoming increasingly clear that problems with ATF's Phoenix division date back at least into the Bush era.

TPM has obtained the documents relating toanother Bush-era ATF operation (on top ofOperation Wide Receiver) which deployed the "gun walking" tactic. The development was firstreported by Pete Yost of the Associated Press.

In fact, ATF officials wrote in 2007 that the gun walking tactic had "full approval" of the U.S. Attorney's Office being run by an interim Bush appointee and that the U.S. Embassy in Mexico was "fully on-board."

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So we have a supposedly inept group who were authorized to go ahead with a mission to go after the cartels during the Bush administration, and we had a moderately disastrous mission to go after the cartels during the Obama administration. I think it's safest to say that we have a general problem with the operations and implementation end of this particular area of focus. Perhaps the "head on a platter" should be whoever is directly overseeing the people charged with implementing these operations...instead of going tit-for-tat between the two administrations.
 
pbrauer said:
I haven't followed the "Fast and Furious" story, but here is some news conservatives/Fox News can suck on.
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So, you haven't followed it up until you've seen something that says BUSH!!!! ?
 
pbrauer said:
I haven't followed the "Fast and Furious" story, but here is some news conservatives/Fox News can suck on.

Emails: Bush-Era Embassy, Prosecutor's Office Approved ATF 'Gun Walking' Tactic | TPMMuckraker


As House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) continues to try to pin the flawed "gun walking" tactic employed in Operation Fast and Furious on the Obama administration, it's becoming increasingly clear that problems with ATF's Phoenix division date back at least into the Bush era.

TPM has obtained the documents relating toanother Bush-era ATF operation (on top ofOperation Wide Receiver) which deployed the "gun walking" tactic. The development was firstreported by Pete Yost of the Associated Press.

In fact, ATF officials wrote in 2007 that the gun walking tactic had "full approval" of the U.S. Attorney's Office being run by an interim Bush appointee and that the U.S. Embassy in Mexico was "fully on-board."

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It'd be nice to see some genuine discontent over corruption and innocent lives lost instead of waiting until it's politically convenient.
 
1Perry said:
So, you haven't followed it up until you've seen something that says BUSH!!!! ?
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Well, he was the World leader in executions until the current Texas governor usurped his throne. Still the world's most famous torturer-in-chief, most prolific liar, and all with a famously low IQ. He's not in jail, so he's doing better than Madoff. He's not dead, so he's doing better than Saddam Hussein. He's not comatose, so he's doing better than Ariel Sharon. Nevertheless, if you don't know anything when you go to bed, things won't be much different when you awaken. He keeps waking up, but his past is on us like the Black plague. Here we are in the middle of the GWSoupForBrains Great Depression.
 
Obama administration revives bad Bush tactic that was abandoned... and goes on to prove exactly why it's a bad tactic and should have been abandoned.

Am i supposed to be surprised here?
 
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1Perry said:
So, you haven't followed it up until you've seen something that says BUSH!!!! ?
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I thought that was funny as well.

I am wondering why the OP left out the details of the Bush plan. Did he sell 2000 weapons to cartel members, not track them and have those weapons kill Americans?
 
1Perry said:
So, you haven't followed it up until you've seen something that says BUSH!!!! ?
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Not exactly true, I found the information in a TPM which I respect very much. Here's more:

Despite Denials, Sources Say Darrell Issa Was Briefed On Details Of ATF's 'Fast And Furious' | TPMMuckraker


House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) said this week that he was "never" briefed about what was going on in Operation Fast and Furious and that ATF agents who ran an April 2010 briefing he attended "never mentioned 'Fast and Furious' by name."

That contradicts contemporaneous documents prepared for that meeting as well as the claims of officials familiar with the briefing, who say Fast and Furious was, in fact, discussed in detail. Still, Issa's office says staffers at the meeting don't recall Fast and Furious coming up and say they weren't given the briefing materials.

An official with knowledge of the meeting told TPM that Fast and Furious was one of "several cases that were briefed in great detail" at Issa's April 2010 briefing. The official specifically said that the names of the operations were mentioned in the briefing, which was run by former ATF Director Ken Melson.
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Seriously, who gives a flying **** when it started?

Do you honestly expect me to believe that President Obama wasn't briefed on a program that involved letting weapons flow across the border into Mexico?

Sorry, not buying this half-assed bull**** tactic.
 
So two different administrations presided over one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of. I'm very reassured now.
 
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