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Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

Lokiate said:
The real question is, why are police there to stop those peoples first amendment right to protest in the first place?
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when does a protest become a riot?
 
Lokiate said:
The real question is, why are police there to stop those peoples first amendment right to protest in the first place?
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Its because there are reasonable limits to free speech.

No yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre, for instance.

There's a point where exercise of one persons rights infringes on the rights of someone else.

Like when monied interests invest unlimited funds in political campaigns, infringing on the free speech rights of those less well heeled.
 
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What if...? said:
Its because there are reasonable limits to free speech.

No yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre, for instance.

There's a point where exercise of one persons rights infringes on the rights of someone else.

Like when monied interests invest unlimited funds in political campaigns, infringing on the free speech rights of those less well heeled.
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No one yelled "Fire" and they weren't in a crowded theatre. They were in a public space where such speech is allowed.
 
Ikari said:
When they start rioting.
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I think the question was: "What constitutes the definition of 'riot' " as it applied to the OWS groups (as context).
 
Ockham said:
I think the question was: "What constitutes the definition of 'riot' " as it applied to the OWS groups (as context).
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Massive looting, Molotov cocktails exploding into police lines, generalized and uncoordinated violence, etc.
 
sangha said:
And we all know the awesome power of this senior citizen. Just look at the muscles!! :roll:

And look at how they use "commensurate force" on this guy, who commits the viscious crime of waving a flag and shouting!! How despicable!

Now watch as the cops pepper spray two dangerous young girls in response to their dangerous screaming "Oh, my god!!"

Here's guy who listens to the cop when the cop tells him to step back, so the cop throws him to the ground for the crime of obeying a cops command
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None of the three videos you showed has anything to do with Boston, which is the topic of this thread. Take them to the thread on the NYC protests... unless that's where you got them in the first place.
 
DiAnna said:
None of the three videos you showed has anything to do with Boston, which is the topic of this thread. Take them to the thread on the NYC protests... unless that's where you got them in the first place.
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Oh there you go again with your accuracy of facts thing again Di. Jeepers... :mrgreen:
 
Lokiate said:
The real question is, why are police there to stop those peoples first amendment right to protest in the first place?
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Nobody has stopped them from protesting.
 
Veterans attacked and arrested at Occupy Boston , Shameful show of force!

"Police throwing everything in garbage trucks after Occupy Boston police raid where officers assaulted a line of U.S. Veterans standing in peaceful protest. What do they think that by destroying everything that people are just going to forget about it and go back to watching Dancing With the Stars? NOT!
Scenes like the night before with veterans being attacked by steroidal testosterone laden cops, will do nothing but inflame the hearts and minds of people to get involved with protests in their town, so please pass this on - it's time to inflame this revolution.

Not sure how they think veterans across the country will react to this, fortunately the guys on the front line of the protests were trained in non-violent direct action beforehand or scenes like this could turn violent. Unlike the corporate sponsored Tea Party movement with a bunch of strapped red neck thugs looking for a fight, OWS protesters are maintaining a non violent stance."
 
Catawba said:
Veterans attacked and arrested at Occupy Boston , Shameful show of force!

"Police throwing everything in garbage trucks after Occupy Boston police raid where officers assaulted a line of U.S. Veterans standing in peaceful protest. What do they think that by destroying everything that people are just going to forget about it and go back to watching Dancing With the Stars? NOT!
Scenes like the night before with veterans being attacked by steroidal testosterone laden cops, will do nothing but inflame the hearts and minds of people to get involved with protests in their town, so please pass this on - it's time to inflame this revolution.

Not sure how they think veterans across the country will react to this, fortunately the guys on the front line of the protests were trained in non-violent direct action beforehand or scenes like this could turn violent. Unlike the corporate sponsored Tea Party movement with a bunch of strapped red neck thugs looking for a fight, OWS protesters are maintaining a non violent stance."
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cat, it's starting to "feel" like it did during the late 60's early 70's




... now if we could only get the music to do the same
 
justabubba said:
cat, it's starting to "feel" like it did during the late 60's early 70's

... now if we could only get the music to do the same
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Yes it is JB, and I'm proud that we are not the only ones to see that:

 
Lokiate said:
The real question is, why are police there to stop those peoples first amendment right to protest in the first place?
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uMM.. they arent........
 
Catawba said:
Veterans attacked and arrested at Occupy Boston , Shameful show of force!

"Police throwing everything in garbage trucks after Occupy Boston police raid where officers assaulted a line of U.S. Veterans standing in peaceful protest. What do they think that by destroying everything that people are just going to forget about it and go back to watching Dancing With the Stars? NOT!
Scenes like the night before with veterans being attacked by steroidal testosterone laden cops, will do nothing but inflame the hearts and minds of people to get involved with protests in their town, so please pass this on - it's time to inflame this revolution.

Not sure how they think veterans across the country will react to this, fortunately the guys on the front line of the protests were trained in non-violent direct action beforehand or scenes like this could turn violent. Unlike the corporate sponsored Tea Party movement with a bunch of strapped red neck thugs looking for a fight, OWS protesters are maintaining a non violent stance."
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Steroidal testosterone laden cops?

You expect me to take that pile of garbage seriously with terms like that????

R O F L.
 
Caine said:
Steroidal testosterone laden cops?

You expect me to take that pile of garbage seriously with terms like that????

R O F L.
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How would you describe the behavior of those that threw non-violent elderly veterans to the ground?
 
sangha said:
No one yelled "Fire" and they weren't in a crowded theatre. They were in a public space where such speech is allowed.
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Dang it.

That was a good trap!

Now nobody'll bite.
 
Catawba said:
How would you describe the behavior of those that threw non-violent elderly veterans to the ground?
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You stop being non-violent when you interfere with Officers making an arrest.

Thank you for playing though.
 
Caine said:
You stop being non-violent when you interfere with Officers making an arrest.

Thank you for playing though.
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How were the elderly veterans violently interfering with Officers making an arrest???
 
Caine said:
You stop being non-violent when you interfere with Officers making an arrest.

Thank you for playing though.
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Not absolutely. There are forms of non-violent protest and interference.
 
Catawba said:
How were the elderly veterans violently interfering with Officers making an arrest???
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I see you keep trying to throw in "elderly" and "veterans" as if that means anything.

I don't care if you are elderly or young, man or woman, veteran or civilian, you DO NOT interfere with police activities.

In a video I watched... nobody was "BEAT" one guy got tossed to the ground after he walked up on an officer who was making an arrest with a freaking flag pole in his hand. You can't see the guy walk up to the police, but you do see him fall down, and when the camera finally decides to move over to where he fell from, you see police Officers finishing up making an arrest......

OooOoo... An old guy got pushed down for getting too close with a ****ing flag and pole in his hand... big ****ing deal.
 
Caine said:
you DO NOT interfere with police activities.
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Ever? Even if it's unjust? Abuse of power? If we see cops beating an unconscious guy to death, then just sit back and let the good times roll because we shouldn't interfere?
 
Ikari said:
Ever? Even if it's unjust? Abuse of power? If we see cops beating an unconscious guy to death, then just sit back and let the good times roll because we shouldn't interfere?
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what other kind of behavior is a leo going to expect?
blind (as well as deaf and dumb) obedience
 
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