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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Enough of your bull**** generalizations. My generation invented "civil disobedience." I personally marched to protest the VietNam war and to support Civil Rights. And I knew, as did we all, that when we broke the law with our protests, we'd be subject to arrest.

    Nothing has changed. You want to protest illegally? You're subject to arrest. Whining about it, like these wussies are doing, is for babies. Back in the day, being arrested was like a badge of courage for our convictions.
    That was HILARIOUS!!! "Your generation"?? Do you have a patent on all those people?

    BTW, civil disobedience has been around a lot longer than you have. Civil disobedience wasn't meant to be a tool to boost your ego, and protesting the laws for which they have been arrested under is part and parcel of non-violent civil disobedience, a concept you obviously have yet to fully grasp
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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Sure.. no problem...

    Just cordon them off and demand a tax from each of them to pay for the repair costs to the new sod.

    Otherwise.... arrest them for damage to property... and yes, landscaping can be considered property.
    Since I have the right to no inconveniences (per mega), I am finding my income tax inconvenient .. it's inconveniencing me so I'm not going to pay it any more... wonder how the IRS feels about my rights.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I would suggest that if the police ask multiple times not to do something and you still do it, you will be inconvenienced. And just so I'm clear... (your double negative - so I'm assuming you mean "People have have the right to not be inconvenienced"), and where is that right written again?
    Hmm...I took it to mean that one does not have a right against being inconvenienced.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So why isn't it anymore? Apparently now, if you get arrested, it means your convictions are invalid.* What changed?

    *= Not saying you made this point, just that it has been made. It has even been made several times in this thread.
    It never was. Being arrested was never meant to boost the protesters ego and street "cred". It is a tool to draw attention to the injustice of the law, the abuse of power by the govt and the overreaction of the govt also made the states fear of the protesters power evident
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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Cool......

    So, As my symbol of expression and protest of the use of Motor Vehicles instead if bicycles, I shall "peacefully" key your car.

    Glad to know that "Its the law" can't stop my "peaceful" expression of damaging property.
    Go right ahead, but don't expect your civil disobedience to get any attention or support, or spread to cities throughout the nation the way OWS' have. That's because you would be rightfully seen as nothing but another authoritarian thug, while the OWS protesters are fighting for what the rest of is see as just

    This is just another example of the rightwingers pretending that they don't understand what the OWS protesters are doing and why. This time, the right wants to pretend that the OWS protesters just want to destroy property. The biggest destroyers of property have HQ's on Wall St
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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hmm...I took it to mean that one does not have a right against being inconvenienced.
    Oh... maybe. It was confusing to be sure.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Oh... maybe. It was confusing to be sure.
    Perhaps. I've certainly made statements of similar construction and depending on how you read it, it could appear to say the opposite of intended. But given the context of what Mega was saying, in response to essentially an argument of "you can't protest where it inconveniences others", it seems more logical that the assertion was that you don't have protections against being inconvenienced. In other words, you do not have the right to not be inconvenienced, if we are to properly take out the double negative would say you have the right to be inconvenienced. Which, ok, that's not a right but more just a fact of reality.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    If that's the case, apologies to Mega for my premature smarmy remark.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If that's the case, apologies to Mega for my premature smarmy remark.
    I mean, that's just my take on it. I could be wrong too, not the first time.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Police beat war veterans in assault on Occupy Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Perhaps. I've certainly made statements of similar construction and depending on how you read it, it could appear to say the opposite of intended. But given the context of what Mega was saying, in response to essentially an argument of "you can't protest where it inconveniences others", it seems more logical that the assertion was that you don't have protections against being inconvenienced. In other words, you do not have the right to not be inconvenienced, if we are to properly take out the double negative would say you have the right to be inconvenienced. Which, ok, that's not a right but more just a fact of reality.
    Actually I do. It's why the people were arrested for blocking the bridge. It puts people's lives at risk.

    This does not reach that level but as I said, protest but have a little respect.

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