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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post

    But we know what did happen. If you do not want people dictating your pay, do not ask them to save you from ruin.
    I definitely agree with that statement. I am really playing Devil's Advocate on that one and thinking of possibilities that would require the bonuses to be issued.



    There was a solution to this but it wasn't pursued because Geithner was only interested in saving his pals. This is the one problem I do have with the OWS crowd. Much of their displeasure should be directed at Geithner but so far I do not see it.
    I have noticed that some of the gripes are misdirected away from Geitner/Bernanke policies and other government created problems.

    The solution.........We agree (which I still would have been against) to bail you out as long as all past compensation contracts are null and void.
    I'm not an attorney so I don't know how possible that solution would be legally, ethically I completely agree with you.
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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/10/wall-street-bonus-survey_n_1003641.html[/url]

    yea! While the rest of the country suffers and the rich *i mean excuse me "job creators"* get bonuses.... What a hunk of bull****!
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    According to the article, last year even more people thought their bonuses would be higher than the previous year. And they were actually down.

    I don't think it's unusual for employees to think they're going to get higher bonuses each year. But what they think doesn't always conform to reality....as we see from 2010 stats.
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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If you spent more time and effort trying to better yourself and less time pissing and moaning about what a few others are getting you might have a better sense of satisfaction. I don't ever hear the whining left complain about people like Jennifer Aniston or Charlie Sheen getting a million dollars per week for some silly show but they void in their panties over what some wall street bond traders get.
    I stay consistent and am equally displeased with celebrities banking on the capitalist system we have. I support capitalism and I'm not one to force people to accept less pay, but you better believe I will openly denounce greed.

    When I hear about actors and athletes getting millions of dollars a year, I can't help but think I could more easily afford going to movies or sporting event if those involved in the shows, movies or events would simply accept a less exorbitant amount of pay.

    $20 million a year just to throw a ****ing baseball around?? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I stay consistent and am equally displeased with celebrities banking on the capitalist system we have. I support capitalism and I'm not one to force people to accept less pay, but you better believe I will openly denounce greed.

    When I hear about actors and athletes getting millions of dollars a year, I can't help but think I could more easily afford going to movies or sporting event if those involved in the shows, movies or events would simply accept a less exorbitant amount of pay.

    $20 million a year just to throw a ****ing baseball around?? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
    I can understand why so many people thinks it's ridiculous as why athletes and celebrities get so much money for little doing more than playing games and getting lots of fame, which many would PAY to have.
    However, they are good at their jobs (or people believe), so because of those people's demand to get more, and because there's such a limited supply, their talents are in very much high demand, so they get such exorbiant pays.
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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I can understand why so many people thinks it's ridiculous as why athletes and celebrities get so much money for little doing more than playing games and getting lots of fame, which many would PAY to have.
    However, they are good at their jobs (or people believe), so because of those people's demand to get more, and because there's such a limited supply, their talents are in very much high demand, so they get such exorbiant pays.
    I understand how the system works... I consider that greed, with the fact that their exorbitant salary ends up being paid for by the fans. What ever happened to playing for the love of the sport? It seems there's no loyalty to the fans. It's all about the money.
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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I understand how the system works... I consider that greed, with the fact that their exorbitant salary ends up being paid for by the fans. What ever happened to playing for the love of the sport? It seems there's no loyalty to the fans. It's all about the money.
    It's a business.
    That love of sports thing was crap. They wanted to make money, they needed to make money, and the fans are stupid enough to pay for it.
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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    great attitude - get yours and screw everybody else... and when somebody complains ... tell them to do it to somebody else.

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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I can understand why so many people thinks it's ridiculous as why athletes and celebrities get so much money for little doing more than playing games and getting lots of fame, which many would PAY to have.
    However, they are good at their jobs (or people believe), so because of those people's demand to get more, and because there's such a limited supply, their talents are in very much high demand, so they get such exorbiant pays.
    Actually the supply really isn't all the limited. My wife and I enjoy going to see the WV Power play ball. The field is top notch. We can get tickets almost right on the field for no more than $8. That's on nights they aren't running some sort of special which they do all summer. Some nights we can get great seats for $2.00.

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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In your America hard workers are the enemy, lazy slackers are heroes, and Government Bureaucracy is the path to "freedom". Orwell wrote a book about people like you.
    1984?
    You do realize that Orwell was a socialist so therefor if you go off the stereotypical statement of this: "Socialists hate the rich and hardworkers" then Orwell must of believed that....

    And also we dont hate hardworkers we just believe that "hey maybe if the people that crashed the system, and really didnt have to pay a dime to save themselves and got a hand out instead of using that money you know to try to create jobs and instead they just throw that money at bonuses." We believe that is wrong.....


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    Re: Most Wall Street Workers Say They Expect Same Or Higher Bonus As Last Year: Surve

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    1984?
    You do realize that Orwell was a socialist so therefor if you go off the stereotypical statement of this: "Socialists hate the rich and hardworkers" then Orwell must of believed that....
    He wrote more then just 1984.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And also we dont hate hardworkers we just believe that "hey maybe if the people that crashed the system, and really didnt have to pay a dime to save themselves and got a hand out instead of using that money you know to try to create jobs and instead they just throw that money at bonuses." We believe that is wrong.....
    The people that crashed the system are over in DC. GOVERNMENT MEDDLING crashed "the system" and Government meddling keeps it from bouncing back. This is the dnger of class warfare rhetoric.
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