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    'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Homeland Security moves forward with 'pre-crime' detection | Privacy Inc. - CNET News



    An internal U.S. Department of Homeland Security document indicates that a controversial program designed to predict whether a person will commit a crime is already being tested on some members of the public voluntarily, CNET has learned.

    If this sounds a bit like the Tom Cruise movie called "Minority Report," or the CBS drama "Person of Interest," it is. But where "Minority Report" author Philip K. Dick enlisted psychics to predict crimes, DHS is betting on algorithms: it's building a "prototype screening facility" that it hopes will use factors such as ethnicity, gender, breathing, and heart rate to "detect cues indicative of mal-intent."

    "If it were deployed against the public, it would be very problematic," says Ginger McCall, open government counsel at EPIC, a nonprofit group in Washington, D.C.

    Elsewhere in the document, FAST program manager Robert Middleton Jr. refers to a "limited" initial trial using DHS employees as test subjects. Middleton says that FAST "sensors will non-intrusively collect video images, audio recordings, and psychophysiological measurements from the employees," with a subgroup of employees singled out, with their permission, for more rigorous evaluation.

    FAST is designed to track and monitor, among other inputs, body movements, voice pitch changes, prosody changes (alterations in the rhythm and intonation of speech), eye movements, body heat changes, and breathing patterns. Occupation and age are also considered. A government source told CNET that blink rate and pupil variation are measured too.

    Although DHS has publicly suggested that FAST could be used at airport checkpoints--the Transportation Security Administration is part of the department, after all--the government appears to have grander ambitions. One internal DHS document (PDF) also obtained by EPIC through the Freedom of Information Act says a mobile version of FAST "could be used at security checkpoints such as border crossings or at large public events such as sporting events or conventions."

    DHS is being unusually secretive about FAST. A February 2010 contract (PDF) with Cambridge, Mass.-based Draper Laboratory to build elements of the "pre-crime" system has every dollar figure blacked out (a fleeting reference to an "infrared camera" remained).

    Relying on ambiguous biological factors to predict mal-intent is worrisome, says McCall. "Especially if they're going to be rolling this out at the airport. I don't know about you, but going to an airport gives me a minor panic attack, wondering if I'm going to get groped by a TSA officer."

    Update 2:12 p.m. PT: A Homeland Security spokesman has just provided this additional statement to CNET: "The FAST program is entirely voluntary and does not store any personally-identifiable information (PII) from participants once the experiment is completed.



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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    This makes me want to vomit
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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    DHS is betting on algorithms: it's building a "prototype screening facility" that it hopes will use factors such as ethnicity, gender, breathing, and heart rate to "detect cues indicative of mal-intent."
    WTF, Homeland Security?
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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    History works in circles... and we always repeat the same stupid things over and over again.

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    But remember, only criminals need to be worried. Or people who are going to become criminals. Or people that the DHS thinks are going to become criminals, based on incredibly sketchy technology. And remember, complaining about anything the DHS does is tantamount with admitting that you're going to become a criminal, because only criminals need to be worried.

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    "If it were deployed against the public, it would be very problematic," says Ginger McCall, open government counsel at EPIC, a nonprofit group in Washington, D.C.

    So why waste the money?

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Sounds strangely Orwellian.
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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Law enforcement can never win with the people...either one side condemns them for not doing enough...or the other side condemns them for doing too much.

    If you want CRIME PREVENTION...you have to give up some liberties PERIOD...if you want to take the risk of you an yours getting hurt fine...just dont blame law enforcement for it having happened

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    "If it were deployed against the public, it would be very problematic," says Ginger McCall, open government counsel at EPIC, a nonprofit group in Washington, D.C.

    So why waste the money?
    Probably a get quick rich scheme like with florida drug testing thing.
    They ideology think it's correct
    Or to see what else they can get away with on the American public. Kinda like this bad kid...

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Highway View Post
    This makes me want to vomit
    I wouldn't do that if I were you. It could be seen as the nervous stomach of a pre-criminal.

    They might make you stay in a field where a prison will be built next year.
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