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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Law enforcement can never win with the people...either one side condemns them for not doing enough...or the other side condemns them for doing too much.

    If you want CRIME PREVENTION...you have to give up some liberties PERIOD...if you want to take the risk of you an yours getting hurt fine...just dont blame law enforcement for it having happened
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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    I don't like this much.

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I wouldn't do that if I were you. It could be seen as the nervous stomach of a pre-criminal.

    They might make you stay in a field where a prison will be built next year.
    Ha true but they'll declare me an illegal alien instead

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    To hell with that. i'd rather have a side arm.
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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Just a matter of time before we’ve got UK style cameras everywhere, recording our every movement and analyzing our body language. Cell phones in our pockets to track our location, social media to map out our network of social connections, internet cookies and credit/debit cards to determine our habits and proclivities. Take all that data, crunch it in sophisticated algorithms and you can predict all sorts of scary ****. Massive matrices of correlations can determine what products you’ll buy, who you’re likely to fall in love with, how/when you’re gonna die, what laws your likely to break and what lies you’ll buy from people selling bull****.

    In the future, the only thing that will protect us from an intrusively omniscient state is the mundanity of our lives. As long as you don’t do anything interesting, only low level sifting programs will see your data. Do something that deviates from the norm, like not using the average number of TP sheets per bowel movements, and suddenly you’ll have voyeurs watching you because criminals/terrorists also like to use three extra sheets of toilet paper.

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    To hell with that. i'd rather have a side arm.

    I have many

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Wow... you know if they could make thoughts a crime, they so would at this point.

    From fiction to reality. As if the intrusive pat downs weren't enough, now we have facial profiling in order to get onto airplanes.

    I can't help but think back to all my insane travel days with sleep deprivation, improper meals, dealing with lineups and delays... some piece of software could now call that a threat of terrorism.

    Our country has gone to the dogs.

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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Law enforcement can never win with the people...either one side condemns them for not doing enough...or the other side condemns them for doing too much.

    Wrong. Law enforcement has been praised by people many times, that to me is a "win".


    If you want CRIME PREVENTION...you have to give up some liberties PERIOD...if you want to take the risk of you an yours getting hurt fine...just dont blame law enforcement for it having happened

    This is illogical. The answer is not either of the extreme - total freedom or zero freedom. The answer is somewhere in between. If after giving the police the power (and paying them) to check people who act suspiciously and they fail to act within this capacity, then we have every reason to blame the police for failure at their job.

    Where it is outside their capacity, like predicting crime where a reasonable person would not have been able to predict, I don't think anyone blame them.
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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post

    In the future, the only thing that will protect us from an intrusively omniscient state is the mundanity of our lives. As long as you don’t do anything interesting, only low level sifting programs will see your data. Do something that deviates from the norm, like not using the average number of TP sheets per bowel movements, and suddenly you’ll have voyeurs watching you because criminals/terrorists also like to use three extra sheets of toilet paper.
    It shouldnt have to come to that though, people should be rejecting this bull**** on a massive scale. However some wont because of one of two things; 1. Their guy is in power scumbags, 2. The typical "if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear" pond scum.
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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    This contraption is beyond vile.

    Picture yourself getting off a really irritating phone call with the office or a client. You are walking down the concourse to wait for your three hour delayed flight to leave. You are really seething at this point. Out of a side door comes a pack of TSA goons. They surround you and start asking you what you are thinking about doing?

    This program needs to be stopped. Mind reading? Seriously, how much more of our liberty can we surrender before we have none left?
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    Re: 'pre-crime' detection Homeland Security

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    This contraption is beyond vile.

    Picture yourself getting off a really irritating phone call with the office or a client. You are walking down the concourse to wait for your three hour delayed flight to leave. You are really seething at this point. Out of a side door comes a pack of TSA goons. They surround you and start asking you what you are thinking about doing?

    This program needs to be stopped. Mind reading? Seriously, how much more of our liberty can we surrender before we have none left?
    Just another way to spend tax dollars and for big government to have more control over it's citizens. Hey Big Brother...

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