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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Stop engaging in class Warfare.
    How was that class warfare?


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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How was that class warfare?
    It's a sarcastic comment.

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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    How did Jobs help the world?

    Well he entertained us with his company Pixar.

    His company designed the computer that became the first server for the world wide web (what you dolts are using to post right now) that was only made possible for Swedish scientist thanks to the Mathmatica and other compiling tools available on NeXT Systems.

    Under his direction, Apple created the modern PC and mouse back in the 80s

    Created Breakout with Steve Wozinak (lol)

    Changed the music industry

    Changed the retail industry

    Changed the computer industry (twice)

    Created what has become the phone and tablet market, and ultimately what will become the PC market in the future

    Popularized the notion of CD-Rs and USB with the introduction of iMac

    Before he left in the 80s, formed a group that made Newton (first PDA) which later spun off of Apple and became Palm

    I could go on....
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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    On facebook:
    "He made the world a better place, we'll miss him."

    He sold you grossly overpriced hardware made by borderline slaves in China. Good marketing and product design skills does not qualify one for sainthood.
    Well no one said anything about sainthood, just that he made the world a better place. And he didn't just sell overpriced hardware. He sparked a revolution whereby the average citizen could have a computer. Also, without his vision you wouldn't be posting on internet forums because these, like every computer program you are probably familiar with uses the user interface that he was the first to successfully implement. But yeah, other than that and no doubt numerous other things, what you said.

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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Forcing children to work in unsanitary conditions for minimal pay so Jobs could become more wealthy isn't the sign of a very decent person, if you ask me.

    Whenever I found out about the child labor in China I vowed not to buy another apple product. And that was years before Jobs died. I am sorry now that I even bought the ipod touch 2G. I didn't know about it back then.

    The man was brilliant and way ahead of his time, but he was also an asshole.

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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Quote Originally Posted by A.Pearce View Post
    Well no one said anything about sainthood, just that he made the world a better place. And he didn't just sell overpriced hardware. He sparked a revolution whereby the average citizen could have a computer. Also, without his vision you wouldn't be posting on internet forums because these, like every computer program you are probably familiar with uses the user interface that he was the first to successfully implement. But yeah, other than that and no doubt numerous other things, what you said.
    I think that's overstating his accomplishments. He popularized computers, but didn't do much beyond that. What about Dennis Ritchie, he died and no one even knows who he was. Dennis invented C, the very foundation of many computer languages, and helped invent UNIX. Steve Jobs accomplished a lot, but I don't know if its as big as everyone is making it out to be. And with the cheap manufacture in China, although I have respect for Steve Jobs and what he accomplished, I don't see how everyone is idolizing him like they are.
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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    How did Jobs help the world?

    Well he entertained us with his company Pixar.
    Hardly "his company".. There were 2 others, plus a buttload of rich investors.. you know Spielberg..

    His company designed the computer that became the first server for the world wide web (what you dolts are using to post right now) that was only made possible for Swedish scientist thanks to the Mathmatica and other compiling tools available on NeXT Systems.
    LOL now you seriously stretching it. Yes the first web server ran on NeXT computer, but it was quickly ported to other UNIX systems... and has never looked back. Guess they found the NeXT system not good enough...Even today there is limited web server functionality in the NeXT OS of today... OSX.

    Under his direction, Apple created the modern PC and mouse back in the 80s
    Well... mouse I can give, but "modern PC".. sorry but that is also a stretch. Remember Apple never had any great influence on the PC market and its marketshare is at record levels today.. still way under 10% world wide.

    Changed the music industry
    Not enough but yea he did. But since then his company has become another problem in the copywrite battles. iTunes software sucks donkey balls, the music is relatively expensive and bound to Apple products. Sadly alternatives to iTunes have not popped up as much as people had hoped, since the music companies refuse to give permission to sell their wares from alternatives to iTunes... leaving the market dominated by Apple with a very few stragglers behind them.

    Changed the retail industry
    Eh how? By opening expensive retail stores to sell expensive products? Gucci and other luxury product makers have been doing that for decades.

    Changed the computer industry (twice)
    How so? Yes his original Mac "Changed" the industry by moving over to a graphical OS from a text based OS, but the Mac was hardly a success. What else did he change in the computer industry? The Apple 2?

    Created what has become the phone and tablet market, and ultimately what will become the PC market in the future
    He created the phone market? You mean the smartphone market I suppose and there you again are wrong. Blackberry is a smartphone and was popular before the iPhone. Nokia had smart phones as well. The market was created.. what he did was use his fanboy network to expand said market for the professional arena to the private consumer arena. As for the tablet market.. yes he made it popular but hardly created it. Tablets have been around for a long time. As for the "PC" market of the future.. tablets are not a PC and will not replace the PC. The lack of a keyboard is a serious limitation along with the price.

    Popularized the notion of CD-Rs and USB with the introduction of iMac
    LOL seriously? How can a product that no one bought popularize anything? iMac came out just after the USB standard hit the market.. in fact Steve Jobs was far more in favour of Firewire... another Apple flop, than USB.. and still is.. since he backed Thunderbolt over USB 3.0.. and has so far utterly failed yet again.

    As for CD-R... again bull****.

    Before he left in the 80s, formed a group that made Newton (first PDA) which later spun off of Apple and became Palm
    Newton flopped and almost cost him the company. And no on the spun off from Apple and become Palm part. Yes it was spun off into the Newton INC, a whole owned subsidiary of Apple. Then Jobs was fired and the Newton INC company was pulled back into Apple and the whole thing cancelled.

    There is no doubt that Steve Jobs had a serious impact on the PC industry and phone industry, but lets not overdue it.
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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Holy crap. The guy was a visonary, whose brilliance literally changed the world we live in... and people are looking for reasons to crap on him after he died, because his company... like just about every other manufacturing company in this country... has his tech assembled in China.

    Some of you have serious issues if you have to dredge up reasons to insult and talk **** about the accomplishments of someone who has just died. Damn. Just... damn.

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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Forcing children to work in unsanitary conditions for minimal pay so Jobs could become more wealthy isn't the sign of a very decent person, if you ask me.

    Whenever I found out about the child labor in China I vowed not to buy another apple product. And that was years before Jobs died. I am sorry now that I even bought the ipod touch 2G. I didn't know about it back then.

    The man was brilliant and way ahead of his time, but he was also an asshole.
    I hope you turn off your computer. Odds are, the companies that manufacture the parts inside of that thing, were connected to the same factories.

    You support exploitation of poorer countries. Now, visit your priest to confess your sins.
    Last edited by Fiddytree; 10-17-11 at 10:54 PM.
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    Re: Steve Jobs just died

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Not enough but yea he did. But since then his company has become another problem in the copywrite battles. iTunes software sucks donkey balls, the music is relatively expensive and bound to Apple products. Sadly alternatives to iTunes have not popped up as much as people had hoped, since the music companies refuse to give permission to sell their wares from alternatives to iTunes... leaving the market dominated by Apple with a very few stragglers behind them.
    It was bound to their products for years, thanks to Fairplay DRM-much like Janus DRM schemes of the windows media audio files supplied by most stores at the time. The issue was that more companies were allowed to purchase rights from Microsoft. But because of the tech world we live in, having a completely cooperative Apple and Microsoft is like asking young kids who happen to be brothers to play nicely.

    The music companies gained much from allowing Apple to create its store. However, it is also a liability to them. You are overlooking that in order to create the idea that the music industries refuse to use other companies, when in fact, they were quite known for using Amazon and others to try to counterbalance Apple's claim to being the biggest and best source for online audio.

    The rest of the post was decent. You could have said you should pull back credit to Apple regarding the mouse, since it was popularized by Apple, yet not created by them. I'm surprised you didn't.
    Last edited by Fiddytree; 10-17-11 at 11:02 PM.
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