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    Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Fukushima plant crisis could erupt | Local | House of Japan - Japan News Technology Autos Culture Life Style

    "The estimate said the temperature of the fuel, now believed to have solidified at the bottom of the reactors' pressure vessels, would rise about 50 C each hour and reach its melting point of 2,200 C in about 38 hours."

    How long will this event be a threat?
    What happens to the injected water?
    Is this more dangerous than a radioactive food chain?
    What if TEPCO goes bankrupt?

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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    If water injection stops for 38 hours. The same article said in most cases water flow could be restored in 3 hours, and this was assuming a second major earthquake/tsunami.

    It's not a threat now.
    The injected water is treated to remove the cesium.
    What?
    The government of Japan is backing them up.
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If water injection stops for 38 hours. The same article said in most cases water flow could be restored in 3 hours, and this was assuming a second major earthquake/tsunami.

    It's not a threat now.
    The injected water is treated to remove the cesium.
    What?
    The government of Japan is backing them up.
    It certainly is a threat, and that is the why for the post.
    And what happens to the water after the cesium is removed?
    "The government of Japan is backing them up." Ah yes! Any corporate nuke problems become the taxpayers liability or am I misreading that quote? I say any corporate nuke problems because they only remain corporate while their profits support them and then they become our (taxpayer) problem. I do not see leftover fuel rods at any corporate nuke site as producing a profit to maintain its own care and feeding.

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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    This is worrisome because here in California we have the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station that has been here since Jan. 1, 1968 and it's almost on the beech.

    That reactor was decommissioned in 1992 but there are two still in operation.

    They say there are safe but so were the ones in Japan supposedly. I don't appose the reactors but I would rather say screw the rats, bugs and lizards, and let's build Solar plants in the deserts.

    Few people live there I know having spend over twenty years in the California and Arizona deserts.

    Wind power is also great with the new innovations that can almost triple the output of those generators.

    As to worries about birds. I lived less than two miles from a mess of wind generators near Palm Springs and there were more birds there than place I ever lived.

    This all needs to be done logically.

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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This is worrisome because here in California we have the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station that has been here since Jan. 1, 1968 and it's almost on the beech.

    That reactor was decommissioned in 1992 but there are two still in operation.

    They say there are safe but so were the ones in Japan supposedly. I don't appose the reactors but I would rather say screw the rats, bugs and lizards, and let's build Solar plants in the deserts.

    Few people live there I know having spend over twenty years in the California and Arizona deserts.

    Wind power is also great with the new innovations that can almost triple the output of those generators.

    As to worries about birds. I lived less than two miles from a mess of wind generators near Palm Springs and there were more birds there than place I ever lived.

    This all needs to be done logically.
    Very very cool. If a windmill experiences a major meltdown it...falls over?

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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    You know - what's the worst case scenario we could be facing? Worldwide devastation or more localized? (and I know they're not saying this is imminent - but I am curious)
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Well, how about hundreds of abandoned nuke sites with radioactive fuel rods and contaminated buildings and equipment. Corporations bankrupt, so it is your grandchildren's grandchildren's children and beyond who do the remediation. Leakages into aquifers, already ongoing, amplified. The profits that these abominations are generating today are long gone into Corporate coffers and Corporate bonuses, among other things. No responsibility because it's Corporate and Corporations are formed to insulate from liability. I don't like it and this is not a business that should be insulated from liability. Enough sun falls on the state of Texas every day to power the whole world. If we fail to participate harmoniously with Mother Earth, we will perish. It's not rocket science. It's common sense. "Believed to have solidified." Do you realize that statement says
    "We don't know for sure, it's a best guess."

    "The estimate said the temperature of the fuel, now believed to have solidified at the bottom of the reactors' pressure vessels, would rise about 50 C each hour and reach its melting point of 2,200 C in about 38 hours."
    Last edited by DaveFagan; 10-03-11 at 11:15 PM.

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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    It certainly is a threat, and that is the why for the post.

    And what happens to the water after the cesium is removed?
    ... dumped back in the ocean? Does it matter? After the cesium is gone, the radiation dissipates rapidly.


    "The government of Japan is backing them up." Ah yes! Any corporate nuke problems become the taxpayers liability or am I misreading that quote? I say any corporate nuke problems because they only remain corporate while their profits support them and then they become our (taxpayer) problem. I do not see leftover fuel rods at any corporate nuke site as producing a profit to maintain its own care and feeding.


    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Well, how about hundreds of abandoned nuke sites with radioactive fuel rods and contaminated buildings and equipment. Corporations bankrupt, so it is your grandchildren's grandchildren's children and beyond who do the remediation. Leakages into aquifers, already ongoing, amplified. The profits that these abominations are generating today are long gone into Corporate coffers and Corporate bonuses, among other things. No responsibility because it's Corporate and Corporations are formed to insulate from liability. I don't like it and this is not a business that should be insulated from liability. Enough sun falls on the state of Texas every day to power the whole world. If we fail to participate harmoniously with Mother Earth, we will perish. It's not rocket science. It's common sense. "Believed to have solidified." Do you realize that statement says
    "We don't know for sure, it's a best guess."

    "The estimate said the temperature of the fuel, now believed to have solidified at the bottom of the reactors' pressure vessels, would rise about 50 C each hour and reach its melting point of 2,200 C in about 38 hours."
    How about if an asteroid hits every nuke plant at once?
    Why would nuclear plants ever stop being profitable? The demand for electricity will never go away. Proceeds from electrical generation go towards storage of spent fuel rods. (which, incidentally, are not that dangerous)

    Yes. Believed to be solidified. They aren't totally sure because it's suicidal to climb in there and poke your finger into it. It's a serious situation but it has been contained. This article is just fearmongering and you've bought it hook, like, and sinker. Nuclear power isn't nearly as dangerous as people think it is.

    Here's a question for you:
    In this, literally the worst double-whammy of natural disasters to ever strike a nuclear power plant, how many people have died as a result?
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    ... dumped back in the ocean? Does it matter? After the cesium is gone, the radiation dissipates rapidly.








    How about if an asteroid hits every nuke plant at once?
    Why would nuclear plants ever stop being profitable? The demand for electricity will never go away. Proceeds from electrical generation go towards storage of spent fuel rods. (which, incidentally, are not that dangerous)

    Yes. Believed to be solidified. They aren't totally sure because it's suicidal to climb in there and poke your finger into it. It's a serious situation but it has been contained. This article is just fearmongering and you've bought it hook, like, and sinker. Nuclear power isn't nearly as dangerous as people think it is.

    Here's a question for you:
    In this, literally the worst double-whammy of natural disasters to ever strike a nuclear power plant, how many people have died as a result?
    Radiation kills. That's a 20km swath around Fukushima. The fish are radioactive way off the coast. Now rice has been contaminated many miles away. Plutonium and strontium found 50 km away. They barely contained the problem. It was real close to burning to the center of the earth. Fearmongering my ass, just acknowledging the realities those with vested interests would rather not publicize.
    Last edited by DaveFagan; 10-04-11 at 08:28 AM.

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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Radiation kills. That's a 20km swath around Fukushima. The fish are radioactive way off the coast. Now rice has been contaminated many miles away. Plutonium and strontium found 50 km away. They barely contained the problem. It was real close to burning to the center of the earth. Fearmongering my ass, just acknowledging the realities those with vested interests would rather not publicize.
    What are you talking about? What they dumped in the ocean has a very short shelf life that can't harm anything by now.

    As for burning to the center of the earth I have no idea what the **** that is going on about.

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