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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I doubt it. The Fukushima has been very much exaggerated, very much typical of the pundits and the media. Only 3 people died from the radiation (they all died because they were workers trying the fix the plant when the disaster happened), and there are no nuclear disaster. Every second, every day, every week, every month that passes, people realize that Fukushima is just another overblown, exaggerated story by the media.
    Get over it
    Actually one person died from the earthquake and two others got killed by the tsunami at the plants. No one got killed when they were dealing with the problems at the plants.

    It should be noted that the only reason Japan called the disaster a seven is from international pressures. It was never a seven by any imagination.
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Actually one person died from the earthquake and two others got killed by the tsunami at the plants. No one got killed when they were dealing with the problems at the plants.

    It should be noted that the only reason Japan called the disaster a seven is from international pressures. It was never a seven by any imagination.
    Thanks for the correction. I just saw the figure 3 from an article somewhere, but thanks anyway
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Well, how about hundreds of abandoned nuke sites with radioactive fuel rods and contaminated buildings and equipment. Corporations bankrupt, so it is your grandchildren's grandchildren's children and beyond who do the remediation. Leakages into aquifers, already ongoing, amplified. The profits that these abominations are generating today are long gone into Corporate coffers and Corporate bonuses, among other things. No responsibility because it's Corporate and Corporations are formed to insulate from liability. I don't like it and this is not a business that should be insulated from liability. Enough sun falls on the state of Texas every day to power the whole world. If we fail to participate harmoniously with Mother Earth, we will perish. It's not rocket science. It's common sense. "Believed to have solidified." Do you realize that statement says
    "We don't know for sure, it's a best guess."

    "The estimate said the temperature of the fuel, now believed to have solidified at the bottom of the reactors' pressure vessels, would rise about 50 C each hour and reach its melting point of 2,200 C in about 38 hours."
    Are you trying to make a point besides "the sky is falling"?
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are you trying to make a point besides "the sky is falling"?
    Well, in his case, it's a point of the earth falling
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Actually one person died from the earthquake and two others got killed by the tsunami at the plants. No one got killed when they were dealing with the problems at the plants.

    It should be noted that the only reason Japan called the disaster a seven is from international pressures. It was never a seven by any imagination.
    Core meltdown is a seven. They denied that for weeks. Now I know these Nuke companies all over the world are not famous for lying, or are they? It is as serious as it gets and it doesn't go away. It's not the common cold. I'm not trying to scare anyone but just acknowledge the realities of Nuclear power to turn a profit and then there's the downside. Isn't it obvious why they are uninsurable?

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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Core meltdown is a seven. They denied that for weeks. Now I know these Nuke companies all over the world are not famous for lying, or are they? It is as serious as it gets and it doesn't go away. It's not the common cold. I'm not trying to scare anyone but just acknowledge the realities of Nuclear power to turn a profit and then there's the downside. Isn't it obvious why they are uninsurable?
    Core meltdown is not a seven. I don't remember if the companies denied it but I know the Japanese government was not willing to say it fit until they couldn't take the pressure by the international community any longer.

    A seven

    "major releases of radioactive material with widespread health and environmental effects requiring implementation of planned and extended countermeasures."
    It failed to reach this level by a large margin. The problem with the measuring of the International Nuclear event scale is that there isn't enough levels to accurately describe the level of disasters. The way seven is described nothing at the moment touches it.
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Core meltdown is not a seven. I don't remember if the companies denied it but I know the Japanese government was not willing to say it fit until they couldn't take the pressure by the international community any longer.

    A seven



    It failed to reach this level by a large margin. The problem with the measuring of the International Nuclear event scale is that there isn't enough levels to accurately describe the level of disasters. The way seven is described nothing at the moment touches it.
    Contaminated rice, contaminated fish, evacuations for 20km around the site. Major releases of radioactivity with plutonium and strontium found 50km away. Radioactive releases are ongoing. I think it fits the seven category perfectly as you have stated.

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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Fukushima plant crisis could erupt | Local | House of Japan - Japan News Technology Autos Culture Life Style

    "The estimate said the temperature of the fuel, now believed to have solidified at the bottom of the reactors' pressure vessels, would rise about 50 C each hour and reach its melting point of 2,200 C in about 38 hours."

    How long will this event be a threat?
    What happens to the injected water?
    Is this more dangerous than a radioactive food chain?
    What if TEPCO goes bankrupt?
    Its **** like this why I am against nuclear power plants. Its almost like a nuclear environmental bomb waiting to happen.I could be wrong but I never heard of any coal powered plants,solar power plants, hydroelectric damn or wind powered plant explosions making a area uninhabitable for humans for hundreds of year and dousing the local food and water supply with radiation.
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Core meltdown is a seven. They denied that for weeks. Now I know these Nuke companies all over the world are not famous for lying, or are they? It is as serious as it gets and it doesn't go away. It's not the common cold. I'm not trying to scare anyone but just acknowledge the realities of Nuclear power to turn a profit and then there's the downside. Isn't it obvious why they are uninsurable?

    No. It's not. A seven means that the accident has widespread consequences, seriously effecting a large portion of the world, i.e. multiple nations. The number you're looking for would be a five, "accident with wider consequences." Compare Chernobyl and Fukushima:
    Chernobyl disaster, 26 April 1986. A power surge during a test procedure resulted in a criticality accident, leading to a powerful steam explosion and fire that released a significant fraction of core material into the environment, resulting in a death toll of 56 as well as estimated 4,000 additional cancer fatalities among people exposed to elevated doses of radiation. As a result, the city of Chernobyl (pop. 14,000) was largely abandoned, the larger city of Pripyat (pop. 49,400) was completely abandoned, and a 30 km exclusion zone was established.

    Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster, a series of events beginning on 11 March 2011. Rated level 7 on 11 April 2011 by the Japanese government's nuclear safety agency.[2][3] Major damage to the backup power and containment systems caused by the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami resulted in overheating and leaking from some of the Fukushima I nuclear plant's reactors. Each reactor accident was rated separately; out of the six reactors, three were rated level 5, one was rated at a level 3, and the situation as a whole was rated level 7.[4] An exclusion zone of 20 km was established around the plant as well as a 30 km voluntary evacuation zone.[5] See also 2011 Japanese nuclear accidents.


    Three level 5 events does not equal a level 7 event. It equals a level 5 event, or maybe a level 6 event, if you can demonstrate that it's had a significant enough impact on a wide enough scale. You notice how the Fukushima incident doesn't list any casualties like Chernobyl does? That's because there weren't any, and that's why Fukushima does not deserve to be rated as a 7 in any sense.
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    Re: Fukushima plant crisis could erupt

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Contaminated rice, contaminated fish, evacuations for 20km around the site. Major releases of radioactivity with plutonium and strontium found 50km away. Radioactive releases are ongoing. I think it fits the seven category perfectly as you have stated.
    Yeah. All the contamination was local. That's the difference between a five and a seven. Chernobyl seriously contaminated a large part of eastern Europe. Fukushima caused slightly increased radiation levels in Tokyo for like 2 days.
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