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Experts fear listeria may be moving into produce

Irradiating food? You've got to be kidding me. That would just kill anything nutritious in it. If you enjoy eating dead food then be my guest. Our food is already crap in this country, might as well add some spent plutonium to the mix. Honestly.

How about we actually enforce inspection laws on production plants, something that is currently lacking? The industrial food industry makes shortcuts galore and abuses antibiotics, and when the public gets sick from superbugs the government AND food industry acts like the reasons are isolated.

The problems are systemic. Profits take the priority to human health.

Irradiating food ≠ adding plutonium to food.
There is a natural level of radiation around you.
Hell it's already been pointed out that the radiation used is less than the amount given off by the sun, that you absorb every day.

Irradiation is used to cover the shortfalls of inspection, because humans are prone to make errors.
 
Monsanto GMOs Linked To Organ Failure.m4v - YouTube - this is about a type of corn only, but it goes into how Monsanto marketed a product they knew was not safe and withheld info from the FDA and it equivalents in other countries. It came out after a whistle-blower sent a secret internal report to the media.

Glyphosate-Based Herbicides Produce Teratogenic Effects on Vertebrates by Impairing Retinoic Acid Signaling - Chemical Research in Toxicology (ACS Publications) - A true research study that shows detriment to humans and animals from increased exposure to Round Up and herbicides in the same category.

This is frankly quite frightening. I could not locate a single study done since since 2005 that states that GM are safe. I saw multiple reports of people doing the research being told that adverse research findings would not be published in the US. The three areas of concern seem to be:

(1) the GM plant is altered to produce toxins to deter insects. Some of these toxins were already know to be toxic to humans and others have been found to be detrimental to humans and livestock as well (cause birth defects, cancer, sterility and loss of pregnancy, disturbances in endocrine and immune system function). Unlike externally applied pesticides, these cannot be withheld for a period before the food is harvested as the plant itself has been modified to make its own pesticide(s).

(2) the toxins above also seem to kill off bacteria than normally would kill off harmful viruses and bacteria that can invade foods - including the topic of this thread

(3) The plants are resistant to glyphosate-based herbicides like Round-up. This means growers use the herbicide instead of manual weeding which results in foods coming to market with higher concentrations of the herbicide residue. The increased residue has been shown to cause endocrine problems, loss of weight and failure to thrive in the young and old and seems to raise the risk for cancer
 
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A couple of years ago I had a small cut on my finger. First the tip swelled up then the next morning it was black and swollen clear to the knuckle. I went to minor emergency and you’d of thought I had the plague, people were running all around in a panic. I can’t recall the name but it was drug resistant flesh eating bacteria that can kill you. I had to fill out a long form detailing where I had been for the last 2 weeks. They gave me some antibiotic that is basically held in reserve for this stuff and thankfully it worked. Very scary though and I feel it’s just a matter of time until this last resort anti biotic doesn’t work. Excrement may be about to hit the fan.
 
You can't make everything 100% safe 100% of the time - so many opportunities for bacteria and so on to fester and infect from the way to the field to the table. But I do take necessary cautions - now that it's a listeria outbreak I'm not *stopping* out food consumption - I'm just ensuring everything is cooked fully and cleaned well (fruits/veggies - and cookware/storage areas).

If something is hard to make safe with cleaning/cooking (like cantaloupe) - then I just avoid that and eat something else for a while - honeydew mellons are far easier to clean. However - they can't be cooked so we're sticking to fruits that can be cooked as an alternative. Since it's starting to get cold outside it's working out fine.

Yup auntie the Name of the game is minimize the risk as much as possible
 
A couple of years ago I had a small cut on my finger. First the tip swelled up then the next morning it was black and swollen clear to the knuckle. I went to minor emergency and you’d of thought I had the plague, people were running all around in a panic. I can’t recall the name but it was drug resistant flesh eating bacteria that can kill you. I had to fill out a long form detailing where I had been for the last 2 weeks. They gave me some antibiotic that is basically held in reserve for this stuff and thankfully it worked. Very scary though and I feel it’s just a matter of time until this last resort anti biotic doesn’t work. Excrement may be about to hit the fan.

umm let me see if I get this right...was it Streptococus
 
umm let me see if I get this right...was it Streptococus

After I posted this I got curious and Googled flesh eating disease, I think it was the other one, necro fascilites or something like that. Doc told me to burn my dressings in the wood stove after I changed them and dont let anyone in my home touch any food container I ate from. When I handed my perscription too the pharmicist with my bandaged up finger he looked horrified and almost dropped my perscription.:lol:
 
Monsanto GMOs Linked To Organ Failure.m4v - YouTube - this is about a type of corn only, but it goes into how Monsanto marketed a product they knew was not safe and withheld info from the FDA and it equivalents in other countries. It came out after a whistle-blower sent a secret internal report to the media.

Glyphosate-Based Herbicides Produce Teratogenic Effects on Vertebrates by Impairing Retinoic Acid Signaling - Chemical Research in Toxicology (ACS Publications) - A true research study that shows detriment to humans and animals from increased exposure to Round Up and herbicides in the same category.

This is frankly quite frightening. I could not locate a single study done since since 2005 that states that GM are safe. I saw multiple reports of people doing the research being told that adverse research findings would not be published in the US. The three areas of concern seem to be:

(1) the GM plant is altered to produce toxins to deter insects. Some of these toxins were already know to be toxic to humans and others have been found to be detrimental to humans and livestock as well (cause birth defects, cancer, sterility and loss of pregnancy, disturbances in endocrine and immune system function). Unlike externally applied pesticides, these cannot be withheld for a period before the food is harvested as the plant itself has been modified to make its own pesticide(s).

(2) the toxins above also seem to kill off bacteria than normally would kill off harmful viruses and bacteria that can invade foods - including the topic of this thread

(3) The plants are resistant to glyphosate-based herbicides like Round-up. This means growers use the herbicide instead of manual weeding which results in foods coming to market with higher concentrations of the herbicide residue. The increased residue has been shown to cause endocrine problems, loss of weight and failure to thrive in the young and old and seems to raise the risk for cancer

Bt Corn is I believe what you are talking about. I have concerns about it as the corn itself is producing the insecticide, rather then insecticide being applied to it. That means the insecticide can not be washed off, or degrade over time after application. People or animals are eating the corn with the insecticide in it.

Glyphosate is a different matter

Glyphosate is related to the organo phosphate group of chemicals of which some chemical weapons are derived (glyphosate is not a chemical weapon). However I would suggest and so do all instructions for the use of glyphosate to limit exposure to the chemical. Over course some farmers will not follow the guildline and expose their workers to it or to other pesticides. As for weeds resistance to Glyphosate, that truely means in the long run less glyphosate being used. Monsanto has been providing other herbicides like Dicamba to farmers free of charge in order to help control weeds Glyphosate can not kill anymore. Dicamba despite being an older chemical is fairly expensive, $18/kg. Farmers are going to have to rotate crops instead of planting Round Up ready Corn every year in the same fields as a means to limit the development of glyphosate resistant weeds. Manual weeding has not occurred in North America on cereal crops, canola, corn in decades. The farms are too big, and labour too expensive. Most herbicides are good enough to take care of the weeds provided a proper rotation in the use of herbicides (different groups every year or every other year.

The EPA does regulate the amount of residue on foods that is acceptable and it does a fairly good job in that regard. But I would still recommend washing all fruits (especially those covered in wax like apples) to reduce any potential residues on them.

I work with various herbicides, fungicides and insecticides on a daily basis. The exposure myself and my coworkers is greater then anyone but farmer workers dealing with corrupt uncaring boss's will be exposed to (or Chinese chemical factory workers). They are generally safe and do not pose a large risk to people eating various foods. The restrictions placed on the various chemicals today are far greater then in the past and as such increased the safety levels for people and animals
 
After I posted this I got curious and Googled flesh eating disease, I think it was the other one, necro fascilites or something like that. Doc told me to burn my dressings in the wood stove after I changed them and dont let anyone in my home touch any food container I ate from. When I handed my perscription too the pharmicist with my bandaged up finger he looked horrified and almost dropped my perscription.:lol:

Type I describes a polymicrobial infection, whereas Type II describes a monomicrobial infection. Many types of bacteria can cause necrotizing fasciitis (e.g., Group A streptococcus (Streptococcus pyogenes), Staphylococcus aureus, Vibrio vulnificus, Clostridium perfringens, Bacteroides fragilis). Such infections are more likely to occur in people with compromised immune systems.[2]
Necrotizing fasciitis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think you were very lucky not to have had to get your finger if not your arm amputated. That is a scary disease
 
After I posted this I got curious and Googled flesh eating disease, I think it was the other one, necro fascilites or something like that. Doc told me to burn my dressings in the wood stove after I changed them and dont let anyone in my home touch any food container I ate from. When I handed my perscription too the pharmicist with my bandaged up finger he looked horrified and almost dropped my perscription.:lol:
Necrotizing fasciitis is a descriptive term. Necrotizing refers to something that causes tissue death. A number of bacteria can cause it (and since you were given an antibiotic, it was bacterial, not viral). Given the reaction of the medical personnel my guess would yours was Streptococcus pyogenes- the most deadly bacteria that can cause this.
 
After I posted this I got curious and Googled flesh eating disease, I think it was the other one, necro fascilites or something like that. Doc told me to burn my dressings in the wood stove after I changed them and dont let anyone in my home touch any food container I ate from. When I handed my perscription too the pharmicist with my bandaged up finger he looked horrified and almost dropped my perscription.:lol:

Its a nasty thing...your the only Ive known that ever had it...Ive seen pictures and they horrified me
 
After I posted this I got curious and Googled flesh eating disease, I think it was the other one, necro fascilites or something like that. Doc told me to burn my dressings in the wood stove after I changed them and dont let anyone in my home touch any food container I ate from. When I handed my perscription too the pharmicist with my bandaged up finger he looked horrified and almost dropped my perscription.:lol:

glad that you're ok. that's scary stuff.
 
After I posted this I got curious and Googled flesh eating disease, I think it was the other one, necro fascilites or something like that. Doc told me to burn my dressings in the wood stove after I changed them and dont let anyone in my home touch any food container I ate from. When I handed my perscription too the pharmicist with my bandaged up finger he looked horrified and almost dropped my perscription.:lol:

Sound like my Dad's situation. He contracted it when he was in a motorcycle accident in 1994 and was hospitalized in a sterilized ward for 3 weeks. (Streptococcus)
 
You guys are scarin me! At the time I didn't give it alot of thought but now that I research it a bit I don't think I got the best medicle attention. Par for the course in a very small town in Idaho though. Oh well, all's well that ends well as they say.
 
You guys are scarin me! At the time I didn't give it alot of thought but now that I research it a bit I don't think I got the best medicle attention. Par for the course in a very small town in Idaho though. Oh well, all's well that ends well as they say.

well there are different strains of it and different people respond - well - differently. My Dad was also recovering from his injuries just due to the crash - his physical condition enabled the bacteria to spread quite rapidly and it infected him internally.

If yours responded to antibiotics then you were fine - and the other measures were precautionary. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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