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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Ahh yes, refer to the last time we actually declared war. Our last legitimate and just war.
    Please advise the Article, Section and Clause of the Constitution that tells us how Congress must declare war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Indeed, if you just resort to standard political hackery like "you want to coddle terrorists" or something or that nature, then it reflects very poorly upon your intellect. Try to use an actual argument instead of kneejerk emotionalized response.
    LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We won WW II. Didn't the Republicans get us out of Vietnam? Did we win that? Was that "just"?
    Yes, we did win the 50 wars of WWII. We should do the same now. We lost in Vietnam. Don't blame me. Blame Johnson and Nixon.

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    Surprise surprise, intellectual dishonesty and hyperbole. I never advocated coddling terrorists so don't make stupid arguments please.
    Sure you do. You have stated that you would leave them in Pakistan so they could fight another day.

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    As I said, attacks on our soil proper (the 50 States) is exceedingly rare. On average maybe 12-15 years apart. And mostly they are not as successful as 9/11 was. It's called statistics, learn it.
    Ah, so we should just forget about all of the other deaths around the world. Pshaw!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There will ALWAYS be terrorists, BTW. For as long as there are a group of powerless, pissed off people there will be terrorists. Who are we making sure "won't come back" now?
    I don't think bin Laden will be back nor even Anwar al-Awlaki was killed just today in the Yemeni War. With your plan, he would still be working with killers like the officer at Fort Hood and the Detroit bombing plot. I don't think we should have coddled him... and we did not.

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    But you expand war and invade more and more sovereign nations. You prolong the war, put more Americans at risk, cause a great deal of anti-American sentiment which plays directly into the hands of terrorist recruitment. Forever War is not going to get us out of this mess. It's only going to prolong it.
    It won't prolong it for many of the al Qaeda as they are dead. I think when this is done, some radical Islamists will give pause before attempting to attack us again. Of course, you could become President and they would know they would have nothing to fear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's America, I'll say what the **** I want when the **** I want to say it. When it comes to military leaders, I hope you do not take offense that I will want someone intelligent, experienced, who understands concepts such as blowback, and who can actually plan for success instead of duration and not you.
    I understand that this is America and that you are free to use profanity if you think that improves your credibility. As for the generals, I picked the best. I don't really think you would be the best. But, that is just an opinion.

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    Yes, yours seemingly is that we fight whenever the hell we want to for as long as we want to, damn the causalities. Mine is that our Military should be used as defense only and that we must properly constrain the government's ability to use it. You know...SMALL GOVERNMENT. But large government supporters probably can't understand it.
    I've already addressed this nonsense. I see no reason to do so yet again.

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    So you're at war with an abstract ideal. Nice. What comes after "radical Islamic terrorists"? What's the next fear we'll have to have to support Forever War? Or can we just keep with the "terrorists are out to get us...run for the hills....run for your life! They sky is falling....the sky is FALLING!!!!" forever?
    Again, I have never heard of a Forever War. Why do you have to make up things? The sky is not falling as we are killing them.

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    I'm sure you are BigGovt.
    Why should I care what you think. Your belief is based on your biases. Whoop-di-doo!

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    But the Forever War is already the longest conflict that we've fought and there seems to be no actual end in sight.
    Really? Maybe you should read what President Obama and the generals have said.

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    The entire thing was bungled from the beginning and nation building is not something the government was authorized to perform. More money, more war, more causalities...friends like that, who needs enemies, eh?
    I told you we would differ over why we fight. Anything else you would like to add? Or, do you want to repeat yourself again?

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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Why? And what should they know?
    They should know that they don't have the authority to conduct a citizen's arrest. Even more important, they should damn well know they don't have the authority to violate the rights of an American citizen, without probable cause and a warrant.

    These men are a disgrace to everyone that has ever warn the uniform of a United States service member.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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