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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not always, sometimes you do so with a gun.
    The majority of revolutions fail, and even those which succeed find those that lead the revolution die young or quickly. Jefferson's immortal words about watering the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots is all very nice, but the entire nation would have to be behind it or at the very least a majority, including those currently in the government. What was shown in the video was symbolic, nothing else. I'm wondering what the agenda was... purely PR or something else?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Another video is here and the link here: New Study: Blondes make men more dumb*|*Raw Replayell i support this. But this small band of protestors will get nothing done.
    Freedom of speech.
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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Anarchy is a tool through which change is achieved.

    BTW, your attitude is one the founders worried about in bringing about the end of the Republic. When people are more concerned about the comforts than the never ending battle for liberty.
    That's not what you said though, you said "criminalize bad government which acts outside the boundaries of the Constitution..." To my knowledge there is no part of the government which at some point has not or does not act outside of the constitution today. Hell, the system is built on running outside the constitution. However, either your saying all of the acts outside of the Constitution are bad, or not... you can't pick and choose which acts outside of the Constitution are still okay and still make a statement like that, otherwise, your view is no better than the people who believe their actions today which fall outside the constitution are okay because their acts "good" and not bad...
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There's much and more I'd eliminate, including TSA and HLS. Along with things such as War Power Act. Extremely limited Fed, no subsidies to Wall Street, no tax incentives to large corporations, no tax breaks for people having kids, etc. All the crap that gets subsidized on the tax payer dime.
    Let's start with the low hanging fruit. Would you eliminate the Education Department? It is, in my opinion, extra-constitutional. Shall we start with the Education Department?

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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The majority of revolutions fail, and even those which succeed find those that lead the revolution die young or quickly. Jefferson's immortal words about watering the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots is all very nice, but the entire nation would have to be behind it or at the very least a majority, including those currently in the government. What was shown in the video was symbolic, nothing else. I'm wondering what the agenda was... purely PR or something else?
    It takes between 3-5% of the population actively involved and between 18-25% of the population passively supporting a revolution for it to meet the minimum requirement for success. Those are high bars.

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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Let's start with the low hanging fruit. Would you eliminate the Education Department? It is, in my opinion, extra-constitutional. Shall we start with the Education Department?
    Absolutely, and it is the propaganda department. Saturated with conservative ideology and history. Back to the one room school, that benchmark of liberalism, and good teachers an thank you but no thank you to the gov't.

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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The government as it stands, the oligarchy created and corporate capitalist model which closes down economic movement...yes; that form of the government might as well fold up now. Maybe we can avoid over a DECADE of war by doing so.

    I remember when no State building was a conservative ideal. Man, did they ever sell out.
    Well with the right people in office that can happen.

    What good would removing Rumsfeld from the streets do - or anyone else they've tried it on? Attacking Rumsfeld for his past actions will change nothing - it won't fix anything, it would improve anything, it won't alter anything.

    The only way to change things is by making the decisions and choices for the future which will make a difference - not haggling over the past.

    The past is done, written - can't change that.
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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Rumsfeld was a GENIUS, man...managing to trick all those democrat career politicians with access to intel throughout the Clinton presidency...what a bunch of stupid ****s. Oh...wait...they were saying the same thing before and after Rumsfeld. My bad. Well...dont worry...I'm sure all those moronic hippies have every one of them on their hit list. Power to the people...

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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Absolutely, and it is the propaganda department. Saturated with conservative ideology and history. Back to the one room school, that benchmark of liberalism, and good teachers an thank you but no thank you to the gov't.
    Often it is easier to ignore your posts than to try to determine your message. This is just such time.

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    Re: Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

    FACT: a citizen's arrest can only be done while witnessing a person actually committing a felony.

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