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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    We could let the Coast Guard handle this one, no need to bother the Navy.

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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    We could let the Coast Guard handle this one, no need to bother the Navy.
    I was thinking Old Navy.

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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    They said near, which makes me think they are probably not lying. Cuba or Venezuela are plausible allies that might be willing to host an Iranian navy presence.
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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran raised the prospect on Tuesday of sending military ships close to the United States' Atlantic coast, in what would be a major escalation of tensions between the long-standing adversarie

    Nah Iran knows better...just huffin and puffin as usual..


    Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report - The West Australian
    do they have any blue-water capability whatsoever? or are they just talking smack without being able to back it up...

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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    do they have any blue-water capability whatsoever? or are they just talking smack without being able to back it up...
    On paper, they could back it up:
    List of current ships of the Iranian Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    They have 3 British-built Vosper Mk5 type Frigates (small warships) and 1 Iranian copy (a second copy is due to be launched in 2012) for a total of four. These would certainly be blue-water ships. They have 2 corvettes (smaller than Frigates) that may or may not be capable of blue-water operations. Corvettes are almost always used for coastal patrol. Their greatest threat are 3 Kilo-class, ex-soviet subs. These can definitely make it across an ocean. But they are very old. Most, if not all, of Russia's Kilos are swinging at anchor, unable to move. Russia cannot afford to keep them maintained so who can say about Iran?

    The rest of Iran's "navy" are patrol boats that cannot make trans-oceanic journeys.

    Theoretically, Iran could send 9 ships to the US. But there are complications. Iran has no UNREP (Underway Replenishment) capability like the USN does. They would need to find friendly ports along the way to take on provisions. Hugo Chavez would almost certainly help. Cuba might, it's hard to say. US relations with Cuba have been "polite" if not friendly. At the height of his power Castro would've helped for certain. Since taking over for his brother Fidel, Raul may want to maintain cordial relations with the US and refuse a port for Iran.

    Fuel is not the main problem for Iran. Water and food for the crews are the biggest problems for ocean-going ships. Iran's navy isn't used to such long-range voyages. Also, making that trip during hurricane season would be a major eye-opener for them. I expect their crews have never experienced the power of an angry Atlantic.

    Iran would be lucky to make it whole distance. And they could "show the flag" for propaganda purposes, but their violently seasick, starved, and dehydrated crews would be in no shape to fight a Cub Scout Row Boat Club, much less the United States Navy.

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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    On paper, they could back it up:
    List of current ships of the Iranian Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    They have 3 British-built Vosper Mk5 type Frigates (small warships) and 1 Iranian copy (a second copy is due to be launched in 2012) for a total of four. These would certainly be blue-water ships. They have 2 corvettes (smaller than Frigates) that may or may not be capable of blue-water operations. Corvettes are almost always used for coastal patrol. Their greatest threat are 3 Kilo-class, ex-soviet subs. These can definitely make it across an ocean. But they are very old. Most, if not all, of Russia's Kilos are swinging at anchor, unable to move. Russia cannot afford to keep them maintained so who can say about Iran?

    The rest of Iran's "navy" are patrol boats that cannot make trans-oceanic journeys.

    Theoretically, Iran could send 9 ships to the US. But there are complications. Iran has no UNREP (Underway Replenishment) capability like the USN does. They would need to find friendly ports along the way to take on provisions. Hugo Chavez would almost certainly help. Cuba might, it's hard to say. US relations with Cuba have been "polite" if not friendly. At the height of his power Castro would've helped for certain. Since taking over for his brother Fidel, Raul may want to maintain cordial relations with the US and refuse a port for Iran.

    Fuel is not the main problem for Iran. Water and food for the crews are the biggest problems for ocean-going ships. Iran's navy isn't used to such long-range voyages. Also, making that trip during hurricane season would be a major eye-opener for them. I expect their crews have never experienced the power of an angry Atlantic.

    Iran would be lucky to make it whole distance. And they could "show the flag" for propaganda purposes, but their violently seasick, starved, and dehydrated crews would be in no shape to fight a Cub Scout Row Boat Club, much less the United States Navy.
    Yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at. You nailed it.

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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Is it leaner and meaner....or is it smaller in terms of ability
    than immediately post-WWII?

    even a 1940's era cruiser projects more power than no ship at all.

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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    And it still has plenty more than Iran.
    yes, and they are stretched exceedingly thin - and facing deep cuts if the "super committee" doesn't pull off a friggin political miracle.


    the point here isn't that Iran could take on and defeat the US in an offensive naval war; but rather to point out that the US Navy is historically weak at the moment, and likely to only get more so in the near future.

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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

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    Re: Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    do they have any blue-water capability whatsoever? or are they just talking smack without being able to back it up...
    Pure smack...the only thing they are good at.....they would never make it anywhere near our coast first of all

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