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    Re: Gm moves to China

    The reason GM is making hybrids in China is the same reason Toyota makes the Prius in China; the irony of their eco friendly cars, is they are horrible on the environment to make and guess what? China has very few regulations in regards to harmful pollution. Toyota is beginning to address this problem by making the factories that make the hybrid more eco friendly and are slowly moving operations out of China (as of now the Prius is the only car Toyota makes in China) and into places such as Japan, Toronto, and Mississippi. However, GM and Ford both have been doing this for quite some time and I find it very annoying. The only way Ford was able to do so well the past few years in the face of Honda and Toyota (which btw make most of their vehicles worldwide pre-assembly to finish US and Canada) was by shipping jobs to Mexico and China. Very annoying indeed. I say we should have let GM totally fail. Would have hurt Michigan but helped out my area immensely.
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    Re: Gm moves to China

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Let’s see if we can find some common ground here. Will you agree that no matter what the exact word, we taxpayers are on the hook?
    Absolutely. The issue is about how we can get off the hook. Misrepresenting a government investment as a loan implies that there is an entirely different method for getting off of the hook.

    A government loan is not necessarily a stupid idea. It has a clearly-defined recuperation schedule an provides profit via interest.

    A government investment is another story entirely.

    In order to recuperate our losses we actualy need to see the company become profitable and the stock values rise.

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    Re: Gm moves to China

    Quote Originally Posted by ThinktownUSA View Post
    Oh God! U used the word NAZI!!! Do u not realize all the doors u opened for this word bozo! (and just because I used the word "bozo" does not make me afraid of clowns...at least not ALL clowns...)
    Expecting people to have a grade-school-level understanding of the words they choose to use doesn't make me a "word bozo".

    Expecting someone who named themselves "thinktownUSA" to understand the reason why word choice is important does make me a bozo, though. I really should recognize irony when it's presented so blatantly.

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    Re: Gm moves to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Absolutely. The issue is about how we can get off the hook. Misrepresenting a government investment as a loan implies that there is an entirely different method for getting off of the hook.

    A government loan is not necessarily a stupid idea. It has a clearly-defined recuperation schedule an provides profit via interest.

    A government investment is another story entirely

    In order to recuperate our losses we actualy need to see the company become profitable and the stock values rise.
    Ok good enough, we basically agree, it was like pullin teeth though!

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    Re: Gm moves to China

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Ok good enough, we basically agree, it was like pullin teeth though!
    It was like pulling teeth, but it wouldn't have been had you actually read what I had written numerous times in this thread.

    For example, let's look at the correction I made for you in post 106:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Correction: We received payment for a government loan with money that came from a government investment.

    It was actually smart of GM to do this because they don't pay interest on the government investment money (they'll actually earn interest on it), but they do pay interest on the loan. One harms the profit margin, the other doesn't.
    As you can see from the above compared to post 133, my stance has remained identical. It is only your comprehension of my stance that has changed.

    I won't hold your failure to comprehend what I had written against you, though.

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    Re: Gm moves to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post

    I won't hold your failure to comprehend what I had written against you, though.
    Geee thanks! LOL

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    Re: Gm moves to China

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Geee thanks! LOL
    No problem.

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