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Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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The 'Occupy Wall Street' protest entered its fourth day on Tuesday, as anti-corporate protesters continued to occupy parts of lower Manhattan. While the organizers had hoped 20,000 would show up and dance, do yoga and raise awareness of the opposition to current economic policies, the turnout has been smaller -- but equally fervent. Many protesters are still there four days in (and they even got a celebrity appearance from Roseanna Barr, who urged the government adopt a "new capitalism.")

The Times reported Monday that at least five people were arrested, including some who were arrested on an obscure law banning public assembly while wearing a mask. Many of the arrests indeed have been over minute, often semantic, disagreements.

While the protest's organizers had stressed that they wanted this to be a peaceful occupation, tensions have flared between the occupation and the cops assigned to keep order downtown. The group Anonymous claimed that cops have increased their presence and stolen recording equipment from some of the protesters.

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Why has this not made the news? It hardly has made the mainstream news at all?? The only time i have seen it on the news is on Rachel Maddow. I find it very interesting...

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Wall Street-area pizza shop rakes in dough from hungry protesters.

The hundreds of anti-capitalist protesters gathered around Wall St. have been a bonanza for one local businessman who has been raking in the dough.

The owners of Liberatos Pizza have been cranking out pies for hungry demonstrators for the past three days with orders coming in from supporters across the globe.

Read more: Wall Street-area pizza shop rakes in dough from hungry protesters

Below is a list of food establishments that appear to be delivering to the protesters.

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While the organizers had hoped 20,000 would show up and dance, do yoga and raise awareness of the opposition to current economic policies, the turnout has been smaller -- but equally fervent

Just how small has the turnout been, I wonder. Since they didn't say flat out I'm guessing a LOT less than 20,000.

That might have something to do with the lack of coverage. I was an event marshal at a DC event with 30,000 vets on one side and 20,000 war protesters on the other, and it wasn't considered really huge.
 
Just how small has the turnout been, I wonder. Since they didn't say flat out I'm guessing a LOT less than 20,000.

That might have something to do with the lack of coverage. I was an event marshal at a DC event with 30,000 vets on one side and 20,000 war protesters on the other, and it wasn't considered really huge.

I've heard numbers ranging from 1,000 to 5,000. This isn't an ordinary demonstration that is suppose to last a few hours though, they're supposedly going to remain there for months.

I've been watching videos of the event, and it appears to be a very diverse crowd. There have been right-libertarian groups, socialist groups, communist groups, anarcho-capitalist groups. It seems like every demographic has a bone to pick with wall street.
 
I dont blame people for protesting. Wall street has many dirty things going on. How loans was dealt with in the early 2000s is what ultimatly threw us into the economic down turn by crashing the housing market. Wall street is full of crooks.
 
I find it ironic because if the Tea Party gets a protest of like 2,000-6,000 people it get amazing media attention... Now just imagine if the tea party protesters were getting arrested...
 
They represent everything I don't like about protesting. They have no goal, no plan of action or organization. Even if someone to listen to them, they couldn't reach a consensus on what they want. Yes, wallstreet has truly ****ed our society recently, but this isn't going to help matters any. The Arab protestors know what they are doing, this is just ridiculous.
 
They represent everything I don't like about protesting. They have no goal, no plan of action or organization. Even if someone to listen to them, they couldn't reach a consensus on what they want. Yes, wallstreet has truly ****ed our society recently, but this isn't going to help matters any. The Arab protestors know what they are doing, this is just ridiculous.

Protesting against corporate and political corruption is just silly?
 
I bet most of those there can afford to be there because of the money their parents made on Wall Street. That's the only problem I have with this so far.
 
I bet most of those there can afford to be there because of the money their parents made on Wall Street. That's the only problem I have with this so far.

Thats quite an ignorant claim if i dare say myself....
 
They represent everything I don't like about protesting. They have no goal, no plan of action or organization. Even if someone to listen to them, they couldn't reach a consensus on what they want. Yes, wallstreet has truly ****ed our society recently, but this isn't going to help matters any. The Arab protestors know what they are doing, this is just ridiculous.

It's only a few days old. There were sporadic, unorganized protests throughout the middle east for years until they started taking on a more organized structure with a single, clear objective. Also this situation is more complex than just ousting a dictator. It's going to take time for the movement to articulate itself.
 
I have a question... Do you?
Do you have any proof to back up that claim?

It's my bet. Just as if I bet red, I do not know that it's going to be red but based upon what I know at the time, red is my bet. Even if it comes up black, red was not an ignorant bet.

So, we can agree that your bet is simply different than mine? Would that make your bet, ignorant?
 
It's my bet. Just as if I bet red, I do not know that it's going to be red but based upon what I know at the time, red is my bet. Even if it comes up black, red was not an ignorant bet.

So, we can agree that your bet is simply different than mine? Would that make your bet, ignorant?

Ok so sense i have no proof where these activist come and how much money their parents make.... But you made an acquisition saying that their parents gave them money they made from wall street to travel to NYC... Usually when someone makes an acquisition (such as this one) they have some proof to back it up. They dont play the card of "well do you have proof that they didnt" card like a child...
 
Ok so sense i have no proof where these activist come and how much money their parents make.... But you made an acquisition saying that their parents gave them money they made from wall street to travel to NYC... Usually when someone makes an acquisition (such as this one) they have some proof to back it up. They dont play the card of "well do you have proof that they didnt" card like a child...

Well, then, perhaps it's the DNC footing the bill........
 
Considering the fact that they don't really have a clear cut message or mass support, I don't think this is going to go anywhere.
 
Well, then, perhaps it's the DNC footing the bill........

The Democratic National Convention? The guys that bailed them out????
Sure.....................
 
I find the protest incredibly stupid.
Despite Wall Street causing the recession, despite the fact that many of the corporations and the corporate workers there are very greedy, despite the fact many of them committed many crimes, they are responsible for most of the US economic growth. Without them, the US wouldn't be a country we all know.
If it wasn't for Wall Street, the protestors wouldn't even have enough money to protest.
 
Well, then, perhaps it's the DNC footing the bill........

Perhaps you have nothing relevant to add by any means. To make a such a statement as your first post you have to be completely loaded with hackish assumptions about the left, and political society in general. Try harder.
 
View more and video at: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise (VIDEO)
Why has this not made the news? It hardly has made the mainstream news at all?? The only time i have seen it on the news is on Rachel Maddow. I find it very interesting...

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I've spent the past week on vacation and this week I haven't been paying much attention to a lot of news.

Since this is the first I've heard of it I'm pretty sure that the protest is suffering from a lack of media coverage. This is the first I've heard of it. If they want that protest to be successful then they need to seek national news coverage.

Also, the protest organizers needs to know who their supporters are. Their supporters are likely to be people who are unemployed. Therefore asking them to spend the money to travel to Wall Street to protest is, well, counterproductive to say the least.

Instead I would have tried to organize simultaneous protests all over the country. That way, those poorer supporters wouldn't have to worry about paying to travel and stay but could still participate. Also, it would have showed how much solidarity this protest would have on a national level.

But that's just how I would do it.

I wish them all well in their protest and in being heard.
 
View more and video at: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise (VIDEO)
Why has this not made the news? It hardly has made the mainstream news at all?? The only time i have seen it on the news is on Rachel Maddow. I find it very interesting...

Thoughts?
Comments?
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This is not considered newsworthy because wall street is among the ACTUAL criminals that have put the economy in this position, also notable is the small numbers attracted to this protest.

Thoughts... People are starting to see the real criminals.
Comments. Too few people to be productive.
response. If you want to attack the banks (or any corporation) is to attack the stock price.
 
A protest, even long-running one, isn't necessarily newsworthy. There needs to be a clearly articulated, significant, and realistic agenda of change that the protesters are seeking. Nebulous rhetoric calling for a "new capitalism" without defining what exactly that concept is, how it would work, and why it matters to ordinary people, won't cut it. At this stage of continuing near-stagnant economic growth, the public is looking for solutions, not narratives about who is to "blame" for a bad situation from which the public wants change. Therefore, it is not too surprising that news coverage has been limited.
 
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