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Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

haymarket said:
The First Amendment protects the right of free speech and assembly as well as to petition for grievances. I suspect your copy of the Constitution has that in it.
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the constitution is 6th ft under the ground somewhere.
 
haymarket said:
The First Amendment protects the right of free speech and assembly as well as to petition for grievances. I suspect your copy of the Constitution has that in it.
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yeah and if you assemble in the right of way you are going to get arrested

if you assemble in the middle of giants stadium during a game you are probably going to get arrested after having the crap kicked out of you

and if some people decide to assemble in my home in the middle of the night I suspect they are going to become extinct rather quickly

and that doesn't violate the constitution
 
haymarket said:
because all the protesters would kill the Wall Street assholes? ;)
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Nope, I suspect people who have no use for left wing troublemakers would use those assholes pulling guns as an excuse to chop them down like firewood
 
TurtleDude said:
yeah and if you assemble in the right of way you are going to get arrested

if you assemble in the middle of giants stadium during a game you are probably going to get arrested after having the crap kicked out of you

and if some people decide to assemble in my home in the middle of the night I suspect they are going to become extinct rather quickly

and that doesn't violate the constitution
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Did I miss the part about these protesters assembling in Giant stadium or in your home? Where did that enter into this story? What post was that reported in?
 
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TurtleDude said:
Nope, I suspect people who have no use for left wing troublemakers would use those assholes pulling guns as an excuse to chop them down like firewood
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Because of their lifelong superior training and extensive knowledge of weapons.... right?

And who said anything about people pulling guns? It was you who begun wild speculation and hoping that this would lead to a mass armament of people in the hopes fear of getting shot would teach people some lessons that you felt they needed. I simply asked a question since you mentioned what you termed "assholes" and I thought you were identifying the Wall street worshippers of mammon.
 
Arresting people who are in the roadway is understandable. Manhandling people who are not resisting and cuffing a 13 yo child - not so much.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
Arresting people who are in the roadway is understandable. Manhandling people who are not resisting and cuffing a 13 yo child - not so much.
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But administering on the spot executions would make sure they don't do it again. ;):shock:
 
how did they get off the bridge anyway?

Also the constitution is 6ft under somewhere.
 
haymarket said:
The First Amendment protects the right of free speech and assembly as well as to petition for grievances. I suspect your copy of the Constitution has that in it.
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However, it doesn't provide for American citizens to harrass and intimidate other American citizens. I suspect your copy doesn't have that in it, either.

These clowns aren't, "assembling".
 
TurtleDude said:
It might

the way the USSC ruled in McDonald, I suspect the NY discretionary laws are going to get raked over the legal coals.
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They will create new barriers...they will keep it going forever
 
apdst said:
However, it doesn't provide for American citizens to harrass and intimidate other American citizens. I suspect your copy doesn't have that in it, either.

These clowns aren't, "assembling".
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Assembling and petitioning for grievances and freedom of speech is at the heart of the protest. To ignore that is to ignore several weeks of reality.

I suspect you hate the goal of the protest and thus are willing to turn a blind eye to the Bill of Rights when it does not suit your own belief system.
 
haymarket said:
Assembling and petitioning for grievances and freedom of speech is at the heart of the protest. To ignore that is to ignore several weeks of reality.
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Seems to me that it's about spoiled rich kids wanting attention. As I said way back, there needs to be a protest of Wall Street and their co-conspirators in D.C. but nobody is going to take those who I accurately described in my earlier post seriously.

Someone thinks that people are going to rally around this but unlike so many protesting the rest of the country actually has to work and doesn't have time to pay attention.

If this was to work you would have to get people willing to pull their money out of these banks. You would have to find people with real complaints......Not those who wasted 6 years in college having their parents paying for their every need and now are complaining because it's time to get a life and the easy life isn't there for them.

Nobody believes the dweeb in the scarf is having it rough because of Wall Street.

I suspect you hate the goal of the protest and thus are willing to turn a blind eye to the Bill of Rights when it does not suit your own belief system.
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I've not seen any real goals. Now the discussion that guns are the solution doesn't do a thing for the arguement of gun rights, but I most certainly would like to punch the little rich kid wearing the scarf and overcoat.

Find some people who have actually been harmed and isn't argueing for the very solutions that caused many of the things they say they are against.
 
haymarket said:
Assembling and petitioning for grievances and freedom of speech is at the heart of the protest. To ignore that is to ignore several weeks of reality.

I suspect you hate the goal of the protest and thus are willing to turn a blind eye to the Bill of Rights when it does not suit your own belief system.
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Specious reply, they are allowed to protest, they are not however allowed to disrupt !
It would appear you forget that the rights of one individual end where the rights of another begin...
 
This protest really is becoming a sad joke.

As Wall Street protest enters 3rd week, movement gains steam nationwide - CNN.com

It appears from several stories (example linked) is that we have a leaderless protest going on that basically targets Captialism, corporate greed and bailouts seems to just be the fuel. Makes no difference if you watch FoxNews, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, or otherwise as most of the interviews with those in protest seem to indicate a general hate for Capitalism yet themselves cannot seem to form much of an answer as to what to replace it with.
 
OrphanSlug said:
This protest really is becoming a sad joke.

As Wall Street protest enters 3rd week, movement gains steam nationwide - CNN.com

It appears from several stories (example linked) is that we have a leaderless protest going on that basically targets Captialism, corporate greed and bailouts seems to just be the fuel. Makes no difference if you watch FoxNews, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, or otherwise as most of the interviews with those in protest seem to indicate a general hate for Capitalism yet themselves cannot seem to form much of an answer as to what to replace it with.
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Sort of like what you see posted here by many.
 
Disputatious71 said:
Specious reply, they are allowed to protest, they are not however allowed to disrupt !
It would appear you forget that the rights of one individual end where the rights of another begin...
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Personally...I hope they target the banks that hold the Union investments and the banks and stock markets collapse and the unions lose everything. Again. Brilliant bunch of noodles gathered together out there.
 
Wall St. and the banks are going to need another bailout. Probably pretty soon. This protest is designed to make sure that that doesn't happen. I've heard numerous cries from the right, complaining about the past bailouts. How do you feel now?

Guns are for the riot Police to carry. They make nice flower vases.
 
Disputatious71 said:
Specious reply, they are allowed to protest, they are not however allowed to disrupt !
It would appear you forget that the rights of one individual end where the rights of another begin...
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Not at all. When people take over a public street and disrupt traffic, they should be dealt with according to the law. That in no way negates the protest of the previous two weeks or what happens from this point forward.
 
Mickey Shane said:
Wall St. and the banks are going to need another bailout. Probably pretty soon. This protest is designed to make sure that that doesn't happen. I've heard numerous cries from the right, complaining about the past bailouts. How do you feel now?

Guns are for the riot Police to carry. They make nice flower vases.
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I feel that if it's Obama pushing the bail out the majority of those protesting will be O.K. with it.
 
Mickey Shane said:
Wall St. and the banks are going to need another bailout. Probably pretty soon. This protest is designed to make sure that that doesn't happen. I've heard numerous cries from the right, complaining about the past bailouts. How do you feel now?

Guns are for the riot Police to carry. They make nice flower vases.
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So...the college students now agree with the Tea Party folks? Awesome!

Still think they shouldnt bail out the banks. Still think they shouldnt bail out the private home owners. Still think the government shoudl stop debt spending everyones grandchildren into oblivion.
 
This reminds me a little bit of the beginnings of the Tea Party movement...
 
Krhazy said:
This reminds me a little bit of the beginnings of the Tea Party movement...
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Well from what I can remember the tea party movement message was simple. End the Fed, & End The Wars. Of course, it got hjack by social cons & neocons in the later years.

This movement end goal solution is wanting socialism from what I can tell. Fatty fat mcfat fat movie has misguided them sadly.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
View more and video at: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise (VIDEO)
Why has this not made the news? It hardly has made the mainstream news at all?? The only time i have seen it on the news is on Rachel Maddow. I find it very interesting...

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It figures that you would watch MSNBC and Rachel Maddow. She is about a left as one can be.

Stop watching propaganda and you will see real news.

By the way from a comment by someone reporting on the protesters it seems they all need a shower.

Maybe they will keep acting up and get a shower from a water cannon.

The ones who were arrested need to face jail time.

They say they are fashioning their idiocy on the Muslim Spring activities, but that ended in violence and death. i hope they are dent packing before it comes to that. I imagine Obama is happy as hell for causing this class warfare.

What a a bunch of damn fools for listening to Obama's lies and BS.
 
The Wall street protests attracted me, and I raised the subject within number of UK debating forums.

We in the UK are currently protesting for referendum to give the people a referendum of our EU membership (we want to withdraw). We are also protesting the eurozone bailouts, which would include the banks. Needless to say, I was surprised it took you yanks so long to protest against your own contrution to bailouts.

How many here actually agree with US government's $16 trillion bailout of European governments and banks at a time when your own economy possesses problems of its own?
 
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