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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    The protest in pictures:





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    Here's a better picture:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Its hard to tell what it LOOKS like with absolutely no context..... which is par for the course here.

    We'll see videos of police taking folks into custody but no evidence of what happened before...

    We'll see videos zoomed in as far as you can on one detail, but ignoring the others.

    Ive seen a video where they were showing the arrest of a guy, and another guy jumped in and started assaulting cops, and the cameraman quickly moved to a different angle so you couldn't see the dude attacking police... imagine that.
    The video was clear. The cops are leading the protestors on the roadway of the bridge. Denying the obvious is par for the course and SOP for thug cops
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    It's not a strawman if you understand the arguement. The word "hostile" doesn't have to include "violence", the word "violence" does have to include "violence". The other poster was confused about the word "hostile" to mean "violence" (i.e. rip them to shreds). I'm pointing out what the correct context for each usage are.





    Because the police thought they were hostile.





    Right. The key word is "feel". When hundreds of people who I think are hostile crowd in on me, I have every reasons to feel threatened, whether in actual fact they mean to harm me or not. I can't read their minds.




    No, people are not allowed to say whatever they want to the police. Inciting riot for example is a crime (though I do not think this is a case of inciting riot). And they didn't just "say", they moved in on the police. As I said, the video shows the police to be in a very claustrophobic position. At the end of that video, one of the protestors were thanking the police for beating them as it furthers their propaganda.
    You were trying (and failing) to explain why the cops used violence. If there was no threat of violence from the protesters, it makes no difference if they were hostile. You claim you can't read their minds, but then you turn around and claim the protesters were hostile to the cops. You're trying to have it both ways. And now you're trying to BS and claim that the protesters were inciting a riot.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    i appreciate those brave youngs who attempts to disturb the ones who own the -great part of your national property.not only there but in turkey youngs are coshed and beaten by police and it means a facism!

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i appreciate those brave youngs who attempts to disturb the ones who own the -great part of your national property.not only there but in turkey youngs are coshed and beaten by police and it means a facism!
    Your protesters, who are facing a reality more harsh than our own, have our support!
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Occupy-Wall-Street.jpg

    The 99 percenters look more like the 1% too me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You were trying (and failing) to explain why the cops used violence. If there was no threat of violence from the protesters, it makes no difference if they were hostile. You claim you can't read their minds, but then you turn around and claim the protesters were hostile to the cops. You're trying to have it both ways. And now you're trying to BS and claim that the protesters were inciting a riot.
    I wasn't trying to explain anything. I stated my opinion, take it or leave it, it's up to you. Whether the protestors use actual violence is besides the point since from the first post I emphasised the word "feel". If the cops feel threatened then they can use force. From the video, the cop's position was claustrophobic, the crowd was hostile to them, the cops can use force. That is my opinion. And if you bother to read carefully instead of letting your emotions take over, maybe you would have read that: I do not think this is a case of inciting riot. The arguement is there to show that your claim that people can say whatever they want to the police is false. There are limits to all sort of freedom, including free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
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    The 99 percenters look more like the 1% too me.
    You think they look like they own most of wealth in the country do you?
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Looks like every single one of them has clothes, has eaten well and can most likely afford tickets tot eh next Dave Matthews concert coming along.

    The shame is some of them, when they grow up, will not ever have the chance to realize what fools and useful idiots they were back in 2011.

    Some of them will never have the satori that will teach the ones who do that they are the richest, freest, most comfortable and prosperous 99% in the history (and geography) of the entire world.

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