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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    To be fair, there are tea partiers out there marching with OWS. IMO the more legitimate ones that are fiscally oriented. Lot of Ron Paul types there.
    Thanks for correcting my thoughts, PoweRob. I was wrong, I admit it and am sorry for misleading anyone in regard to it. It was not intentional.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    They are similar to the tea party, they just have different priorities.
    This is the way I see it and if people really wanted to make a difference and not just play politics they would take advantage of it. The OWS and The Tea Party at least on the surface overlaps quite a bit. Where they differ is in the solution after the fact. That's a major diference but still we'll never get there without changes to start with.

    If someone really cared about this they would get the two together with the understanding that they could go their seperate ways after they had enacted changes. Both are upset with D.C. catering to Wall Street. OWS at least as far as I can tell, and that is hard to tell because there is no cohesive position yet, but they seem to feel that the government should do more for main street where the Tea Party feels that the government needs to leave people alone.

    IMO there is room for both if we could get Washington to quit sucking at the teat of Wall Street.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Thanks for proving me right........

    You know... that protesters always accuse police of being with whatever cause they are against......
    LOL!!

    Only the police syncophants could this proves anything about the police when it was about a rightwing agitator who was caught in a fraud

    And funny how you never said that the protesters always accuse the police of always being with whatever cause they are against. It sounds like that was made up for convenience sakes.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    This is the way I see it and if people really wanted to make a difference and not just play politics they would take advantage of it. The OWS and The Tea Party at least on the surface overlaps quite a bit. Where they differ is in the solution after the fact. That's a major diference but still we'll never get there without changes to start with.

    If someone really cared about this they would get the two together with the understanding that they could go their seperate ways after they had enacted changes. Both are upset with D.C. catering to Wall Street. OWS at least as far as I can tell, and that is hard to tell because there is no cohesive position yet, but they seem to feel that the government should do more for main street where the Tea Party feels that the government needs to leave people alone.

    IMO there is room for both if we could get Washington to quit sucking at the teat of Wall Street.
    OWS has a Delcaration posted on their website. I would urge people to read the Declaration of Occupation of NYC and provide feedback.

    Admittedly, some of the things they apparently stand for are of little consequence to most middle-class Americans, such as, "They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices". But much of what they want makes very good sense.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    OWS has a Delcaration posted on their website. I would urge people to read the Declaration of Occupation of NYC and provide feedback.

    Admittedly, some of the things they apparently stand for are of little consequence to most middle-class Americans, such as, "They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices". But much of what they want makes very good sense.
    Hey, thanks, I appreciate it.

    Yes, there are some real fringe positions there but I'll not let the fringe stop me from supporting the bigger picture.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Hey, thanks, I appreciate it.

    Yes, there are some real fringe positions there but I'll not let the fringe stop me from supporting the bigger picture.
    Well, I want to say that the valid "bigger picture" are the more Conservative/Libertarian positions of no more bail-outs, that being government cash to businesses, which would seem to include not only bank bail-outs, but also GM, Solyndra, etc. And if they want to reduce the influence of big-money then it is not only corporate money, but union money as well, which has corrupted just as much.

    And now we have a problem. This movement is not against cronie capitalism such as GM and Solyndra. This movement is not against Union money. This movement is not for goals that improve the marketplace of both politics and/or business. This movement is about fomenting more government intervention so as to redistribute. This movement is about fomenting liberalism. This movement is a fraud, meant to advance bigger liberal government.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Well, I want to say that the valid "bigger picture" are the more Conservative/Libertarian positions of no more bail-outs, that being government cash to businesses, which would seem to include not only bank bail-outs, but also GM, Solyndra, etc. And if they want to reduce the influence of big-money then it is not only corporate money, but union money as well, which has corrupted just as much.

    And now we have a problem. This movement is not against cronie capitalism such as GM and Solyndra. This movement is not against Union money. This movement is not for goals that improve the marketplace of both politics and/or business. This movement is about fomenting more government intervention so as to redistribute. This movement is about fomenting liberalism. This movement is a fraud, meant to advance bigger liberal government.
    We'll see. The enemy of my enemy and all.

    If they want to argue that bailing out banks is bad but GM isn't, at least half of my position is being pursued as opposed to none of it.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    LOL!!

    Only the police syncophants could this proves anything about the police when it was about a rightwing agitator who was caught in a fraud
    English mother ****er.... do you speak it? I can't seem to understand what you are trying to say through all the grammatical errors.

    And funny how you never said that the protesters always accuse the police of always being with whatever cause they are against. It sounds like that was made up for convenience sakes.
    Ummm..... its obvious you are trolling. You haven't been paying attention.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
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