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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    All kidding aside I have not yet grasped what this is really all about. In my mind, if these folks are against what has been going on in Washington and are not partisans in disguise, then the message here would be somewhat similar to the fiscal points of the tea party. If not, why not?
    They are similar to the tea party, they just have different priorities.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    That was Greenspan who was constantly telling everyone to "tap the equity in your home."

    Greenspan managed the regulatory agency that allowed for this but it was up to individual homeowners to take out these second mortgages. Most people could not tell you who Greenspan was.



    Perhaps. But this comment seems to scapegoat trying to improve where we live by comparing us to third world. We can and should always be looking to better things where we are and dismiss comparatives to anyone but ourselves as to whether or not we are getting better don't you think?

    All I am doing is being truthful and comparing wages and skills in manufacturing. A worker in a third world nation working in a factory may make $2/ hour. In the U.S. with similar productivity the rate may be something like $12-17/ hour and if they get benefits something like $30/ hour.


    Don't think it matters where their headquarters are if they offshore the proceeds anyways. Even though I'd like to have their HQ's here, personally, if I had to choose, I'd choose their manufacturing over their HQ's every day of the week and on Sundays.
    That is the problem. First you want "jobs", but do not care if a company moves thousands of jobs that pay very well. Seems counterproductive to me. To talk about which you would choose is disingenuous as one has nothing to do with the other.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    "Originally Posted by washunut
    All kidding aside I have not yet grasped what this is really all about. In my mind, if these folks are against what has been going on in Washington and are not partisans in disguise, then the message here would be somewhat similar to the fiscal points of the tea party. If not, why not?"

    Does the location of the occupation being on Wall Street do anything for you? It's not on Main Street in Podunk. What is Wall Street synonomous with. Wealth, greed, arrogance, bank bailouts, gov't interference, etc. Perhaps the subliminal message in the location of the protest is too subtle for you.. I realize that all manner of organizations will attempt to hijack the occupation with their own messages and agendas, but so far that has not worked.. It is a protest of business per usual on Wall Street to the detriment of the citizens of the country. Demonstrate your strength in numbers and perhaps violence will not be necessary. I don't think Wall Street will pay any attention due to arrogance, but "hope springs eternal."

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wow... Troll much?
    Trolling is a job for the police, and their syconphantic supporters in the rightwing

    Daily Kos: Conservative Magazine Brags of its Agent Provocateur's Role in Provoking Police Action in D.C. (NEW)

    The American Spectator admits to being involved in the precipitation of violence at the Air and Space Museum as a means of discrediting the Occupy Movement.


    It has been openly reporting about its "plants" among the protesters and their actions to get certain things to occur. Included in this, today, was the presence of - and central role played by - Patrick Howley, its Assistant Editor, in sparking the police reaction and violence.
    The Spectator removed Howleys article out of embarrassment, but there's a pic of Howley at the event


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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    There seems to be a disagreement between different groups on whether the police "led" them onto the bridge or not. I'll stick with respectable police officers before I'll believe a mob of protesters, especially when those protesters all don't have the same story either......... who to believe?

    For you, its whichever story makes the police look the worse......


    Now go back to your cave, troll.
    Some people will always believe the cops, no matter how absurd their lies are, and deny what their lying eyes tell them

    At 0:30 thru 0:40 you can see the protesters walking only on the walkway, while cars pass by unobstructed on the roadway.
    From 0:40 thru about 1:00 you can see the cops lead the protesters onto the roadway



    But of course, you will deny what is clearly visible
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Not sure the exact point that the libs are making.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Can anyone tell us what this is about? What outcome is the crowd looking for?
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It's tough to take this message from someone who was one of the wealthiest Democrats in Congress.
    I fixed that for you because you have no problem believing the wealthiest republicans in congress
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I get the fact that certain derivatives are harmful, others however are critical. For example what would farmers do without being able to lock in prices with future contracts.
    In that case, you don't get the facts

    Commodity futures are not derivatives
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It's tough to take this message from someone who was one of the wealthiest members of Congress.
    It's tough believing you after shilling for Rick Perrys' corporate funders

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059711524
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