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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Poor single level thinkers.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Poor single level thinkers.
    Recycling the same non sequitur crap from thread to thread ftl.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's so easy to sit back and demand evidence then play passive dismisser. I kind of am doubting the sincerity you may have for wanting to know anything but rather believe your will is to just sit back and toss stones. Anyways, watch this. Kind of sums it up nicely I think.
    I made this arguement years ago. I was dismissed pretty much because it was Clinton that signed it's demise. The problem is it could have been passed already but instead we got the garbage that is Dodd/Frank.

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    Why? You being a conservative and all I thought you were of the mind that they deserve special attention and hoisted on a pedestal more than others.
    If you can find where I ever made that arguement I'll own up to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I made this arguement years ago. I was dismissed pretty much because it was Clinton that signed it's demise. The problem is it could have been passed already but instead we got the garbage that is Dodd/Frank.
    meh. clinton failed on many levels like allowing NAFTA and WTO crap to go forward to signing the bill that Phil Graham poisoned with the Graham, Leach, Blilely Act that repealed the Glass/Steagal Act to raiding SS and using it's funding to declare the budget balanced. I'm no friend of Bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    If you can find where I ever made that arguement I'll own up to it.
    nah... I'm just chiding you as much as you are me.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's so easy to sit back and demand evidence then play passive dismisser. I kind of am doubting the sincerity you may have for wanting to know anything but rather believe your will is to just sit back and toss stones. Anyways, watch this. Kind of sums it up nicely I think.

    I get the fact that certain derivatives are harmful, others however are critical. For example what would farmers do without being able to lock in prices with future contracts. breaking up Glass-Stegall was a mistake of the Clinton administration. Regulation was poor under Greenspan, true. Enron brought on Sarbanes Oxley which was not mentioned. The crisis has brought on Dodd-Frank which will take time to get implemented. Fannie, Freddie and the FHA are still out there creating future bad mortgages. not sure that was covered.

    The country has been on a downward spiral for thirty years. It has been held aloft by increasing public and private debt. The piece forgets to mention that people were using the inflated housing prices to turn their houses into piggy banks, living beyond their means through borrowing.

    Life is hard, try living in a third world nation with the skills of many in that protest and find out just how hard life can be.

    Just seems that in these difficult times it is easier to blame some scapegoat and say he/she is stealing than find a way to pull ourselves up.

    Again not sure what these people are hoping for as an endgame. Would they be happier if a corporation like GE set up headquarters in Europe or Asia where their markets are growing?

    Not sure if they want a chance to climb the ladder of success or are content if others get knocked down a few rungs.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I get the fact that certain derivatives are harmful, others however are critical. For example what would farmers do without being able to lock in prices with future contracts.
    Farmers aren't the problem. It's those bidding on wheat that don't even actually know what it looks like that is the problem.

    breaking up Glass-Stegall was a mistake of the Clinton administration.
    He didn't do it alone.

    Regulation was poor under Greenspan, true. Enron brought on Sarbanes Oxley which was not mentioned. The crisis has brought on Dodd-Frank which will take time to get implemented. Fannie, Freddie and the FHA are still out there creating future bad mortgages. not sure that was covered.
    Too bad D.C. has completely forgotten that Sarbanes/Oxley is even on the books.

    I'm not sure what the actual message is either but so far outside of a few space heads, I've not seen too much to complain about.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Too bad D.C. has completely forgotten that Sarbanes/Oxley is even on the books..[/QUOTE]

    If you ever worked at a corporation you would know that this is alive and well.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I get the fact that certain derivatives are harmful, others however are critical. For example what would farmers do without being able to lock in prices with future contracts. breaking up Glass-Stegall was a mistake of the Clinton administration. Regulation was poor under Greenspan, true. Enron brought on Sarbanes Oxley which was not mentioned. The crisis has brought on Dodd-Frank which will take time to get implemented. Fannie, Freddie and the FHA are still out there creating future bad mortgages. not sure that was covered.

    The country has been on a downward spiral for thirty years. It has been held aloft by increasing public and private debt. The piece forgets to mention that people were using the inflated housing prices to turn their houses into piggy banks, living beyond their means through borrowing.
    That was Greenspan who was constantly telling everyone to "tap the equity in your home."

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Life is hard, try living in a third world nation with the skills of many in that protest and find out just how hard life can be.

    Just seems that in these difficult times it is easier to blame some scapegoat and say he/she is stealing than find a way to pull ourselves up.
    Perhaps. But this comment seems to scapegoat trying to improve where we live by comparing us to third world. We can and should always be looking to better things where we are and dismiss comparatives to anyone but ourselves as to whether or not we are getting better don't you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Again not sure what these people are hoping for as an endgame. Would they be happier if a corporation like GE set up headquarters in Europe or Asia where their markets are growing?
    Don't think it matters where their headquarters are if they offshore the proceeds anyways. Even though I'd like to have their HQ's here, personally, if I had to choose, I'd choose their manufacturing over their HQ's every day of the week and on Sundays.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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