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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the idea of the American dream keeps people working and pacified, because they feel they have a chance within the system to better themselves and the lives of their children.

    if the illusion is broken, there will be unrest. put simply, if the average person feels he or she has little to no chance of ever doing better than scraping by, that person will be a lot less likely to let a small percentage of people hold most of the wealth.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Real quick and simple:

    1) The Housing Bubble, which when popped, left 25% of all Americans upside down bigtime in their mortgages. Not only did those people cut back on their own buying, some of which had been elevated due to second mortgages taken out during the boom years, but many now saw default as their only way out.

    2) Lack of confidence at every level. We no longer had an underlyuing manufacturing base to fall back on. It has been slipping away while we made money trading stocks in unprofitable internet companies, and then selling property back and forth to each other. Big reality slam that came with the bubble burst.

    3) Debt. We created a pending nanny state collapse. This further undermines confidence.

    A real tri-fecta we created.
    1) The Housing Bubble was not a natural catastrophe
    2) The bubble was caused by an excess of confidence, not a lack of confidence
    3) Govt debt had nothing to do with the collapse
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Maybe slow down your assault on post-count records. And put "pwnage" whre the sun don't shine, if there is room left with your head in the way.

    If your argument is why did GS get government money, and Wachovia not, then have at it in a debate about such. Better political connections can count. But as I pointed out, in the end, it does not matter. At the end of the day, GS was still standing, and Wachovia needed to merge. That's business. If that makes GS a winner, and Wachovia a loser, so be it.
    Once again, you twist and spin to avoid the point, which is simple - you were wrong

    You said the banks which made the biggest mistakes failed first. You are wrong. Most of the banks who made the biggest mistakes did not fail at all. Even you admit that "GS was still standing"
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The banks failed because of the housing bubble burst. That would be "1)a)". You need to stop and think a little bit better. I am not going to write a book for you.

    Again, I repeat, for every bank that lost money, another bank, or financial institution, made money.
    Why did the housing bubble burst?

    It wasnt a natural disaster or an Act of God.

    And you are wrong to say that "for every bank that lost money, another bank, or financial institution, made money" Finance is not a zero sum game.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    What? I was under the assumption that it was and is the responsibility of the federal government to regulate Wall Street (the financial industry), to ensure economic stability, good practice, etc.

    You're stuck because you both have to admit it was the federal governments responsibility, but worse, had you given that responsibility to Wall Street instead, you WOULD be justified in blaming them. But you didn't, you took it away and gave it to the fed, you can't have it both ways.

    If you claim hendge funds and big banks engaing in legal activities are RESPONSIBLE for the economic downturn, you are pulling my leg. You can't be serious...
    You are responsible. You should have ensured your government was handling the charges it was given. Who watches the watchers?
    And that's why they are protesting. Because the govt not only turned a blind eye to the unethical dealings on Wall Street, but also encouraged it. The politicians acted in the interests of the Wall St interests that supported their campaigns instead of the interests of the people
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    They are very irresponsible and want someone else to pay for their irresponsibility. Granted, that's exactly what the big banks did also.
    The big difference is that the banks got a bailout and the rules haven't changed. Wall St is still free to engage in the same type of dealing that got us into this mess because they have bought off the politicians
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    If all this is true it just proves they are idiots to boot. Wall street doesn't make the rules. They should be marching on DC if they want money spent on people not on bailouts. WTF is the point? Do they think the big wall street companies will just say "eh your right, were not going to use our influence anymore in dc". Just a group of idiot hating on the wrong people.
    No, the politicians that Wall St pays makes the rules

    And the rightwing likes it that way
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Oh, is that what they are protesting ? These same fools had no trouble with unions contributing to politics, did they ? How'd that work out for all the municipalities across this great land, and the taxpayers that footed the bill for the bloated salaries and benefits ?

    95% of TARP is paid back. But let's just take money from someone who earned it, at the point of a government gun if need be, and give it to someone else to "meet their needs". Then they will finally let go of the gubmit teat ?

    At a TEA party rally, you see folks who want nothing from government except their freedom. At these moonbat 99%'er rallies, you see freeloaders everywhere, all expecting government to redistribute someone else's wealth to them. Parasites.
    As I've said before, for all the talk about how the Tea Party is a grass roots movement, the truth is they know who is funding their campaigns, and will defend the corporations no matter what.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Unions give millions and millions to influence elections. Be for this or against it or be dismissed.

    Public-Employees Union Now Leads All Groups in Independent Election Outlays

    Public-Employees Union Is Now Campaign's Big Spender - WSJ.com

    Do you support ending monied influence or only when you disagree with where they spend the money?
    Like most on the left, I beleive that only individuals should be able to give to campaigns

    I'd like to remind you that the reason why orgs like unions are allowed to give to campaigns is due to laws proposed by and passed under Nixon, and SCOTUS decisions that were supported by the rightwing justices
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Right, big money influencing elections do not actually bother you. Your complaints are dismissed.
    And big money influencing elections do not really bother you either. Your complaints are one-sided and dismissed
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