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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    This is now front page news across the world BBC News - Wall Street protesters march in New York
    Across the globe commentators are applauding the protest. The US stock market and banks are widely considered a major factor in the condition of the world economy.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Ethics, good or bad, are a part of business. Where we have laws, we try to prevent, or prosecute, ethics which cross those lines. But like it or not, it does not matter with the housing bubble. Inflation in the housing market created a whole lot of winners, and virtually no losers, for a long time. Ethics was not going to change that fact. When the bubble finally burst, those left holding the bag now represented a whole lot of losers, and very few winners. Regardless of ethics, there was going to be a loser for every prior winner. Remember, for everyone in an upside-down mortgage, a prior owner did real well for themselves.
    That is absolutely not true. The American people were the losers. And your claim that money just transfers around is completely bogus. A great example is again Wachovia and Wells Fargo. When Wachovia goes bankrupt, most of the corporate office loses its jobs here in Charlotte. Obviously, the Charlotte economy suffers heavily. Next, for Wells Fargo to buy Wachovia, they had to use capital, and by buying Wachovia, they also then had to take on Wachovia's debts. That is less capital the company then has for new ventures and for loans. Which comes back to people trying to get loans from companies like Wells Fargo, well, it gets hard because they have tightened their belt now. So now small business is suffering.

    I get your Darwinistic approach to Capitalism, it is not complicated, nor is it effective. You can dance around the issue all you want, but as long as Wall Street securities trading remains unchecked, the American people will suffer.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    No, they are not. They are pro-Obama, the biggest leech in the country. They are pro-union, the biggest leech organizations in the country. They are cheap liberal astroturf. And their hopes for more free-stuff will be crushed in Nov 2012.
    " The protests have brought together people of many political positions including liberals,[43] political independents,[44] socialists,[43] conservatives,[44] anarchists,[44] and libertarians.[43] Religious beliefs vary as well including, but not limited to, Christians, Jews, Muslims and atheists."
    Occupy Wall Street - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    " The protests have brought together people of many political positions including liberals,[43] political independents,[44] socialists,[43] conservatives,[44] anarchists,[44] and libertarians.[43] Religious beliefs vary as well including, but not limited to, Christians, Jews, Muslims and atheists."
    Occupy Wall Street - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Do not feed the trolls, my friend. He has trollolololed this thread up for too many pages as it is.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    At least in Europe, the protesters fight back instead of lying there like a dog.

    Kick the policemens f-ing asses!
    And what did the policemen do to deserve rocks thrown at them?

    Oh, wait, they showed up to maintain order... how dare they!?!?!
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    me thinks this is just starting ....the teaparty has made bitter enemies with their rhetoric against the working class....you can "FEEL" the depth of the passion when you talk to any working class...
    I belong to 2 retired police officer groups...its not a union one calls itself a union but theres no negotiating or anything...trust cops have turned on the GOP...and they were always tradtiional allies of the GOP...
    Another group I can speak for.. veterans are as enamored with the GOP as they once were either.
    The few coherant arguements we see from the Wall Street protests are among the exact same complaints the Tea Party has. For those who blame snow in October on the Tea Party though they will likely not see that.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    And that is the only money that effects politics ? Wall Street money ? Not union money ? Not the money raised by such as Clinton supporters from the Chinese ?

    99% losers.
    The unions are shadows of their former selves yet corporations are now allowed to make anonymous campaign donations. It isn't the unions that protect our rights that we the people are worried about.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    They are standing up for a reordering of our national priorities as to what is important to the majority of the country (jobs, affordable healthcare, the environment) not more wealth for a small percentage of the wealthy.
    Which majority was that ? Nov 2010 ?

    They are standing up for free stuff. Their version of affordable health care is someone else paying for it. Of jobs are do-nothing government work where they can't be fired and the benefits run forever. And the environment has been getting better for near four decades.

    These folks are for stupid. We ain't gonna fix that.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The unions are shadows of their former selves yet corporations are now allowed to make anonymous campaign donations. It isn't the unions that protect our rights that we the people are worried about.
    Unions give millions and millions to influence elections. Be for this or against it or be dismissed.

    Public-Employees Union Now Leads All Groups in Independent Election Outlays

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...761790288.html

    Do you support ending monied influence or only when you disagree with where they spend the money?
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The unions are shadows of their former selves yet corporations are now allowed to make anonymous campaign donations. It isn't the unions that protect our rights that we the people are worried about.
    Nov 2010. And it appears the Dems have not learned from their mistakes.

    So they repeat in Nov 2012. See you here.

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