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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Well, then, perhaps it's the DNC footing the bill........
    Perhaps you have nothing relevant to add by any means. To make a such a statement as your first post you have to be completely loaded with hackish assumptions about the left, and political society in general. Try harder.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Why has this not made the news? It hardly has made the mainstream news at all?? The only time i have seen it on the news is on Rachel Maddow. I find it very interesting...

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    I've spent the past week on vacation and this week I haven't been paying much attention to a lot of news.

    Since this is the first I've heard of it I'm pretty sure that the protest is suffering from a lack of media coverage. This is the first I've heard of it. If they want that protest to be successful then they need to seek national news coverage.

    Also, the protest organizers needs to know who their supporters are. Their supporters are likely to be people who are unemployed. Therefore asking them to spend the money to travel to Wall Street to protest is, well, counterproductive to say the least.

    Instead I would have tried to organize simultaneous protests all over the country. That way, those poorer supporters wouldn't have to worry about paying to travel and stay but could still participate. Also, it would have showed how much solidarity this protest would have on a national level.

    But that's just how I would do it.

    I wish them all well in their protest and in being heard.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Why has this not made the news? It hardly has made the mainstream news at all?? The only time i have seen it on the news is on Rachel Maddow. I find it very interesting...

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    This is not considered newsworthy because wall street is among the ACTUAL criminals that have put the economy in this position, also notable is the small numbers attracted to this protest.

    Thoughts... People are starting to see the real criminals.
    Comments. Too few people to be productive.
    response. If you want to attack the banks (or any corporation) is to attack the stock price.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    A protest, even long-running one, isn't necessarily newsworthy. There needs to be a clearly articulated, significant, and realistic agenda of change that the protesters are seeking. Nebulous rhetoric calling for a "new capitalism" without defining what exactly that concept is, how it would work, and why it matters to ordinary people, won't cut it. At this stage of continuing near-stagnant economic growth, the public is looking for solutions, not narratives about who is to "blame" for a bad situation from which the public wants change. Therefore, it is not too surprising that news coverage has been limited.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    I know people who are at this protest. There is currently a media blackout on the event, presumably because they don't want to draw anymore support to it. It's why the event is small. The media conglomerates, government, and wall street firms are all making sure that this doesn't get attention. The protest is MUCH needed though.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    A protest, even long-running one, isn't necessarily newsworthy. There needs to be a clearly articulated, significant, and realistic agenda of change that the protesters are seeking. Nebulous rhetoric calling for a "new capitalism" without defining what exactly that concept is, how it would work, and why it matters to ordinary people, won't cut it. At this stage of continuing near-stagnant economic growth, the public is looking for solutions, not narratives about who is to "blame" for a bad situation from which the public wants change. Therefore, it is not too surprising that news coverage has been limited.
    The protest has a very clear message, which is why the media is not covering it. In the lead up, tens of thousands said they would be attending. (Look at the facebook group for it.) Even with such numbers, the media still has not mentioned it.

    It's newsworthy, but the plutocracy is scared it will gain attention.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    I've heard numbers ranging from 1,000 to 5,000. This isn't an ordinary demonstration that is suppose to last a few hours though, they're supposedly going to remain there for months.
    A protest at wall street is newsworthy, especially one that is lasting. Just like it was newsworthy to cover the protest In Seattle over the new oil pipeline that would move through protected lands.

    The media is completely controlled.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Perhaps you have nothing relevant to add by any means. To make a such a statement as your first post you have to be completely loaded with hackish assumptions about the left, and political society in general. Try harder.
    The left? I made no remark concerning "the left" at all. Do you have a guilty conscience or something?

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    The protest has a very clear message, which is why the media is not covering it.
    The small group of protesters is making demands, some of which are largely rhetorical in nature.

    From their website:

    Ending capital punishment is our one demand...
    Ending police intimidation is our one demand...
    Ending wealth inequality is our one demand...
    Ending corporate censorship is our one demand...
    Ending the modern gilded age is our one demand...
    Ending political corruption is our one demand...
    Ending joblessness is our one demand...
    Ending poverty is our one demand...
    Ending health-profiteering is our one demand...
    Ending American imperialism is our one demand...
    Ending war is our one demand...
    This is little more than a lengthy angry rant. "One demand" turns out to be eleven highly diverse demands. There is no focus. There are no attempts at solutions e.g., for "ending joblessness." What policies do they seek to do so? They offer no answers right now.

    In the lead up, tens of thousands said they would be attending. (Look at the facebook group for it.) Even with such numbers, the media still has not mentioned it.
    That's what the group said. In the end, there were 5,000 protesters at the peak. There are very few now.

    Without meaningful scale and without a coherent agenda, the protests are not very newsworthy.

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