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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    “For years, too many Wall Street executives made imprudent and dangerous decisions seeking profits with too little regard for risk, too little regulatory scrutiny, and too little accountability."

    This Obama quote is typical of his attitude towards Wall Street and US corporations in general and now these “spontaneous” demonstrations break out. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence and the white house has nothing to do with it. I’m sure it’s not an attempt to motivate his base which has been disheartened by the fact that we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan and Gitmo is still open and the economy sucks. There’s no way this could be orchestrated by the white house, the DNC or any other pro Obama group.
    I don't know, man. Its not like that's really a Democrat or liberal only belief.

    When the financial game of musical chairs finally ended, we were the ones left standing.

    But it was Wall Sts game that went south.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Simple question. What good does driving up demand for foreign made products, does that add jobs in AMERICA???
    Kind of a non sequitur comment but I'll play. It matters not. One is not tied or the cause of the other. Regardless of where the supply is coming from it's all for naught if there is no demand for that supply. So a comment based on pumping up why we need our jobs back in the US has pretty much no bearing on the fact that demand builds and drives an economy.
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    Right. You are telling me that there was no demand for a more portable phone and internet connection? The iPhone is nothing but the "better mousetrap" you learn in econ 101. There is always a demand for a better mousetrap.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Give this dude a bullhorn!!

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    On my way home from my office I had NPR on and the reporter was interviewing two 20 something kids who were part of this protest. Talk about rambling disjointed psychobabbling nonsense. One was whining about being able to pay off his college debts. Of course the reporter didn't ask him WTF he was majoring in but I suspect he wasn't a phi beta kappa in engineering from Cornell or RPI. The other one was going on and on about the"rich" and then claiming "We aren't anti wealth" but the top 1% can outvote the rest of us.


    hard to take those morons seriously
    Give me a mic and a camera and the ability to edit and I can make any crowd sound anyway you want them to. To the MSM has not appeared to have been interested in the protests. So are the protests not good for business from a news point of view? I doubt that is the issue. MSM equals one of 4 mega corporations. Perhaps the early word was to downplay or even spike the stories. Now they decided to cover it a little bit. We have already seen a new bias in reporting the facts. It maybe MSM is going for the clueless slant on the story. MSM can portray the protest honestly or they can slant it. What you think corporate head would prefer?

    There are older and retired people at the protest, there are homeless people, students, employed, unemployed, well educated and not so well educated. There are conservatives and liberals. If the MSM, which actually has done little to cover the protests, continually aired quotes from the erudite and the well spoken, those of you who support Wall Street would have been moaning about the "elitists".

    Most certainly Wall Street/Corporations or the US Government (not that there is a difference anymore) have loads of plants in the mix. I know I keep mentioning it, but misdirection and subtrefuge are just a couple more tools in Corpgov's black art kit. One, there are many, of the ways to mitigate the efforts of the protesters is to use agents provocateur to discredit the movement. I've said it and What if has said it, and a few others have said it - Nothing in MSM and beyond is without purpose and the purpose is often deceit. Mass communication, mass deceit, control of the masses.

    Some of the people to be interviewed can easily have been pre-selected or positioned. There is no doubt in my mind the protesters are now infested with people who have been sent to defuse the protest in any number of ways. Playing stupid would be a start. If that doesn't work they have plans A, B and C ready to discredit the effort.










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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    Give this dude a bullhorn!!

    All the people standing around watching him havent got a clue what he is saying...thats a funny video. Of course...he lost people as soon as he said "elect Ron Paul"

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

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    Uhh arent we all "ideological whores"
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Yelling for real dude was for real.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I suspect the men with Washington at valley forge were fairly ripe.

    These people are taking their lives in their hands going against the basic American worship of mammon.
    If the Boston Tea Party took place today, the rightwing would accuse them of being dirty hippies and demand that they be thrown in jail
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    If the Boston Tea Party took place today, the rightwing would accuse them of being dirty hippies and demand that they be thrown in jail
    "As during the Boston Massacre and the mass protests that followed it in the late winter of 1770, "the laboring classes...formed the bulk of actors...at the [Boston] Tea Party" of December 16, 1773. The working, or "laboring," class aspect of the historic event was evident not just in the social composition of the cadres who moved from "Old South" (the Boston meetinghouse where the patriots approved and planned their soon-to-be-famous assault on British tea) to British cargo ships that fateful evening. It was clear also in how the action - remembered in official public memory as "the destruction of the tea" (not "the tea party") until the early 1830's - sent up the refined tea-making rituals of the British elite and its colonial representatives. What came later to be called the Tea Party was, historian Alfred F. Young notes, "a mock enactment of the making of tea. The cry in Old South, 'Boston harbor a teapot tonight,' set the tone. The spirit of the day and night, after two weeks of suspense, was one of festive euphoria. Furthermore,

    to "make tea" in Boston harbor mocked the genteel tea ritual. Tea, as Mercy Otis Warren wrote, was "an article used by all ranks in America," but among the better sort the conduct of brewing, pouring, and serving tea was an elaborate, mannered class ritual managed by women. Among the well-to-do, it required the elegant silver teapots, creamers, and sugar bowls crafted by silversmiths like [Boston's Paul] Revere, the tea caddies, serving trays, and tea tables made by skilled woodworkers, and the porcelain cups, saucers, and serving dishes imported from abroad. For the boarding parties - all but a minority of them able to wield block and tackle and lift and break open 350-pound chests - to "make tea" in Boston harbor was a parody of class and gender [and]...another way to channel class resentment.
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