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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Does this remind any of the other older posters of the 1960s civil rights protest and the anti-Vietnam War protests of the late 1960s and early 70s? This protest is making headlines across the world. It has very effectively done exactly what the protesters hoped it would do - drawn attention to role Wall Street's establishment and its associated organizations played in the financial crisis and made it clear to both politicians and the rest of the world that American citizens are not willing to allow the lax oversight of either one nor to bail them out again.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Does this remind any of the other older posters of the 1960s civil rights protest and the anti-Vietnam War protests of the late 1960s and early 70s? This protest is making headlines across the world. It has very effectively done exactly what the protesters hoped it would do - drawn attention to role Wall Street's establishment and its associated organizations played in the financial crisis and made it clear to both politicians and the rest of the world that American citizens are not willing to allow the lax oversight of either one nor to bail them out again.
    Well hopefully we don't elect people who would allow such a thing. :-)



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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Does this remind any of the other older posters of the 1960s civil rights protest and the anti-Vietnam War protests of the late 1960s and early 70s? This protest is making headlines across the world. It has very effectively done exactly what the protesters hoped it would do - drawn attention to role Wall Street's establishment and its associated organizations played in the financial crisis and made it clear to both politicians and the rest of the world that American citizens are not willing to allow the lax oversight of either one nor to bail them out again.
    Yeah, that's what it did.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dang that Wall Street...walking around...ripping people off...stealing from them. And 'the banks'...evil...

    If all you have is slogans...you got nothing. You got nothing. Now...as discussed earlier...if you think we should rid the country of all those congressmen and women that supported the bank bailouts...great. If you have some form of evidence of individuals that committed crimes...YES. By all means. Identify their criminal behavior. Repeating empty headed rhetoric over vague entities...well...not exactly 'priceless'.
    How about $4 trillion of deadbeat mortgages carried on bank books at their stated value and not "mark to market" values which would cause instant bankruptcy, don't you think? Could AIG possibly make good their insured credit default swaps? Would these things be criminal? No bank bailout, they would have all gone belly up. Thank you Uncle Sam. That would be some of those citizens protesting Wall Street perhaps?

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    How about $4 trillion of deadbeat mortgages carried on bank books at their stated value and not "mark to market" values which would cause instant bankruptcy, don't you think? Could AIG possibly make good their insured credit default swaps? Would these things be criminal? No bank bailout, they would have all gone belly up. Thank you Uncle Sam. That would be some of those citizens protesting Wall Street perhaps?
    How about a government that forced those companies to write those deadbeat loans in the first place? Nevermind those ****ers, I guess.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    How about $4 trillion of deadbeat mortgages carried on bank books at their stated value and not "mark to market" values which would cause instant bankruptcy, don't you think? Could AIG possibly make good their insured credit default swaps? Would these things be criminal? No bank bailout, they would have all gone belly up. Thank you Uncle Sam. That would be some of those citizens protesting Wall Street perhaps?
    And I was opposed to the bank bailouts. i would have rather seent ehm all collapse. Had that happened we would be now 5 years into a recovery and not 5 years into treading water and gasping. But see...that is a very specific thing...opposed to congress and the bank bailouts. Fine...go after every congressman that voted to allow it. But the continued vague generalities are silly and pointless. If you have a specific banker you believe should be held accountable or liabel, then cite that individual. Most of those people are doing the same things you and others here have done...man...its...the banks...and Wall Street...and...they are bad man...

    As for the home mortgage values...its very easy for you to tell the banks they should devalue mortgages they hold instead of hanging onto them for when market values go back up. From their perspective it makes good business sense. Ive said it for years...they should have let the market values crash. But keep in mind...all those bank held properties...they wont be the only ones that get their teeth kicked financially when those housing costs drop. Huge numbers of middle income home owners will get their ass kicked when it comes to home values.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That doesn't give a riotous mob the right to intimidate those people, though.

    This is still America, where American citizens are to be protected from this crap.
    those scumbags are another reason why NYC needs to scrap its idiotic anti-gun nonsense



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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That doesn't give a riotous mob the right to intimidate those people, though.

    This is still America, where American citizens are to be protected from this crap.
    Did my post say they did ? I dont see that

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    those scumbags are another reason why NYC needs to scrap its idiotic anti-gun nonsense
    That wont happen in our lifetimes..

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street Enters Its Fourth Day, Tensions Rise

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    That wont happen in our lifetimes..
    It might

    the way the USSC ruled in McDonald, I suspect the NY discretionary laws are going to get raked over the legal coals.



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