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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Save your breath. The rightwingers, as a whole, can not understand compassion, as they regularly demonstrate.
    Where would you be without your sweeping generalizations?

    Understanding compassion and feeling compassion aren't necessarily the same thing. You might feel compassion about something and therefore have a stupid idea. I understand that compassion can lead to stupid ideas and therefore advise more critical, logical thought.
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    Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ive been saying this and I will say it again...The more the teaparty and their supporters talk...the worse they look
    May be, but from a religious standpoint, the Bible said that this would happen. Jesus said that he would send a strong delusion to those who do not truly believe in him, but just go through the motions so that others think they are religious, that they would believe a lie. That lie is the so-called prosperity Gospel being preached by Televangelists disguised as godly men, but who represent Satan himself. From a religious standpoint, the beast of Revelations is alive and well. The "Mark" is coming soon.
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    idea Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    I'm disheartened (but not surprised) by this. I've looked at both sides of this argument, but it comes down to doing the right thing for me. There have always been poor and irresponsible people, always. There always will be poor and irresponsible people. There are also people who have made some bad decisions and reaped horrible consequences - hopefully said person learns something. IMO you don't throw away people because of circumstances and bad decisions, you give them another chance. That doesn't mean they don't have to also help themselves.

    I cannot advocate letting people die, or go without healthcare or food or shelter (unless they choose to do so). I also don't advocate hand-outs for the rest of your life because you're lazy, ignorant, etc. There has to be a compromise that is workable. My city offers a Hand-Up for single women on welfare. They help them get into college, help them get a part-time job (until their degree is complete - then it's on to full-time), help them find adequate and affordable day-care, help them get transportation (we have no public transportation that actually works), help them choose affordable insurance, etc., etc. Of course this is not cheap. However, our tax dollars (as far as I know, other than the groups tax-free status) aren't supporting this - companies, individuals, churches, groups, etc., - are.

    I realize this is small-scale compared to the entire country, but... it's an idea!

    Ok, rant over.
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    Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    Quote Originally Posted by Chenoa View Post
    I'm disheartened (but not surprised) by this. I've looked at both sides of this argument, but it comes down to doing the right thing for me. There have always been poor and irresponsible people, always. There always will be poor and irresponsible people. There are also people who have made some bad decisions and reaped horrible consequences - hopefully said person learns something. IMO you don't throw away people because of circumstances and bad decisions, you give them another chance. That doesn't mean they don't have to also help themselves.

    I cannot advocate letting people die, or go without healthcare or food or shelter (unless they choose to do so). I also don't advocate hand-outs for the rest of your life because you're lazy, ignorant, etc. There has to be a compromise that is workable. My city offers a Hand-Up for single women on welfare. They help them get into college, help them get a part-time job (until their degree is complete - then it's on to full-time), help them find adequate and affordable day-care, help them get transportation (we have no public transportation that actually works), help them choose affordable insurance, etc., etc. Of course this is not cheap. However, our tax dollars (as far as I know, other than the groups tax-free status) aren't supporting this - companies, individuals, churches, groups, etc., - are.

    I realize this is small-scale compared to the entire country, but... it's an idea!

    Ok, rant over.
    That wasn't a rant. It was pretty well thought out and intelligent.
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    Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    buncha bs.......the bigger problem here is that TEA PARTIERS shouted "let him die"...and TEA PARTIERS cheered executions. makes me wonder why anyone would be a part of that movement. has michelle bachmann produced the name of the woman who ALLEGEDLY said her daughter "got" mental retardation after the gardisil vaccine? gotta love those tea partiers, though, they are probably trying to outlaw that vaccine as i write.

    paul is the most honest person running for the nomination. unfortunately, he's also bat**** crazy.
    I heard applause after Huntsman said that the party needs to stop rejecting science. Does that mean that "Tea Partiers" all strongly support the theories of evolution and global warming? Making generalizations is dangerous.

    Paul is not crazy at all. His answer was quite sane and it was not what was yelled.

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    Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So let us get this straight....a bunch of teabaggers say they think we should just let them die, so it's wrong to point out that the teabaggers think we should just let them die?

    Is that why you dishonestly made up that BS about a "diatribe" against "almost half the country"?
    Bunch? No. Your generalization is wrong and unless you throw in some qualifying words. You could say "some" maybe even "most" but without those words it implies "all" which is not accurate, unless Perry and Paul are not part of the Tea Party.

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    Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Doesn't matter. That institution kills real people, with real families, who suffer real pain. Cheering it has the same effect. You may honestly agree with, but it is a somber institution that warrents a sober reaction. Cheering doesn't fit.
    Sure it fits. I see nothing fundamentally wrong with cheering on an institution that not only deters crime but administers proportional justice.
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    Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So let me get this straight....Perry comes out against the reaction of the crowd in that particular situation and instead of saying, "yeah, he's right..that was bad on them" you turn it into some sort of diatribe against almost half of the country?

    Well, hell...
    Teabaggers aren't half the country. A significant majority of the country, whether they are conservative or liberal, are decent, morally upstanding, educated, folks. The teabaggers only make up maybe, at most, 20% of the country.

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    Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    Sure it fits. I see nothing fundamentally wrong with cheering on an institution that not only deters crime but administers proportional justice.
    No. Not among human beings. Again, justice is not a spectator sport, but a somber institution that often does acts that leads to pain among innocent people. We have to do much of this, but the pain should always be acknowledged, thus not something to be cheered.

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    Re: Rick Perry 'Taken Aback' By Tea Party Audience Cheering, "Let Patient Die"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    Sure it fits. I see nothing fundamentally wrong with cheering on an institution that not only deters crime but administers proportional justice.
    I think something is fundamentally wrong with cheering a human being's death. Especially from a party that bills itself as "pro-life." It's almost as if the same people who say "life begins at conception" believe that it ends at birth.

    I am among those who think that the death penalty is necessary (if overused). I think war is sometimes necessary (if undesirable). Maybe a person needs to live with the consequences of their decisions if they actually decide that they're going to go without insurance even if they can afford to have it.

    But cheering people dying? That should be unconscionable to anybody who is a decent human being. Apparently the GOP candidates are decent people. Unfortunately, it seems the same cannot be said for a very vocal (if hopefully small) number of their supporters.
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