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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    The services would be paid for under a public system too.

    Besides, the gist of Paul's answer was "yes".
    No, the gist of Paul's answer was to take care of yourself because people like him and me are tired of taking care of unresponsible imbeciles.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Then why is it when a few union people do something dumb, it gets turned into "everybody who's not anti-union?"
    People try to smear their opponents.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is an indication how radical and far right the Tea Party is.

    I think Dr. Paul is an intelligent person.

    But when you take some of his ideas to their logical conclusion, the answer flies in the face of who we care as a nation.

    America is compassionate and we do not believe the least of us should suffer--children, the elderly, the disabled--all reasonable people would agree that those safety nets are necessary and vital to our National Character.

    So, how do you solve the problem of the healthy 30-year old. Simple. Mandate. If he doesn't get his own health insurance, he pays a reasonable fee at tax time.

    It's really very simple folks. It's call PULLING YOUR OWN WEIGHT. I thought these Conservatives believed in that. I bet the far-right types go crazy if they get hit by someone without auto insurance... Oh the hypocrisy. It's not about "freedom", they just don't like Obama.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I think Dr. Paul is an intelligent person.

    But when you take some of his ideas to their logical conclusion, the answer flies in the face of who we care as a nation.

    America is compassionate and we do not believe the least of us should suffer--children, the elderly, the disabled--all reasonable people would agree that those safety nets are necessary and vital to our National Character.

    So, how do you solve the problem of the healthy 30-year old. Simple. Mandate. If he doesn't get his own health insurance, he pays a reasonable fee at tax time.

    It's really very simple folks. It's call PULLING YOUR OWN WEIGHT. I thought these Conservatives believed in that. I bet the far-right types go crazy if they get hit by someone without auto insurance... Oh the hypocrisy. It's not about "freedom", they just don't like Obama.
    Nope, I don't go crazy. I take them to court and make them set up payments to pay me the money owed, or depending on my insurance, my insurance company takes them to court and they force him to pay them the money he owes them.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Paul couldnt even answer that question...he knows the answer....Society WILL PAY...this isnt medival america....
    We all knew what Paul was really saying, the TP said it directly for him.... Paul just said it nicer and indirectly, and his statement did get a huge applause. He said the guy took his risk, that's what freedom is, and intervening to save him would be the opposite of freedom

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    The money would be stolen out of American taxpayer pockets under a public system, **** that ****.
    Every American would also have access to the public system. Unless you believe in 0% tax of any kind, and that there should be no public service or government whatsoever, no US military, no public police force, no public fire protection, no public roads, ect you don't really believe tax money is being "stolen". You're just using it as a hyperbolic talking point. I could say that my tax dollars are already being stolen to fight expensive wars that I don't want to be spending tax money on. I would much rather spend it on infrastructure, health care and education. Your chances of being killed by an untreated tooth infection are much higher than your chances of being killed by a terrorist.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    No, the gist of Paul's answer was to take care of yourself because people like him and me are tired of taking care of unresponsible imbeciles.
    Which means "yes" he should be left to die because it isn't society's responsibility to take care of him.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    The God of the old testament is illogical as a deity worthy of worship. His actions and the teachings that are attributed to him are often immoral. The New Testament tries to marry Judaism with Platonism (which is a big old bag of crazy on its own) and so we get this figure of God as divine.
    I would disagree. The Old Testament diety is one to be feared and respected. The New Testament diety is one to be laughed at.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    America is compassionate and we do not believe the least of us should suffer--children, the elderly, the disabled--all reasonable people would agree that those safety nets are necessary and vital to our National Character.
    If america was compassionate they would rethink 3/4 of their policies. If America was compassionate they wouldn't have ****ed up the insurance industry. If America was compassionate they wouldn't tax from me to pay for safety nets so people can avoid the results of actions. If America was compassionate when a man fell in the street everyone wouldn't just pass without helping. America isn't compassionate. .

    So, how do you solve the problem of the healthy 30-year old. Simple. Mandate. If he doesn't get his own health insurance, he pays a reasonable fee at tax time.
    When you decide to not get insurance you are making a choice. Making people pay for their choices is how you form a responsible society

    It's really very simple folks. It's call PULLING YOUR OWN WEIGHT. I thought these Conservatives believed in that. I bet the far-right types go crazy if they get hit by someone without auto insurance... Oh the hypocrisy. It's not about "freedom", they just don't like Obama.
    Pulling what? I would hope you would of realized before you posted the pulling the weight you are talking about is caused by policy. It not something worth supporting an action on to counter the results of bad policy.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Every American would also have access to the public system. Unless you believe in 0% tax of any kind, and that there should be no public service or government whatsoever, no US military, no public police force, no public fire protection, no public roads, ect you don't really believe tax money is being "stolen". You're just using it as a hyperbolic talking point. I could say that my tax dollars are already being stolen to fight expensive wars that I don't want to be spending tax money on. I would much rather spend it on infrastructure, health care and education. Your chances of being killed by an untreated tooth infection are much higher than your chances of being killed by a terrorist.
    The majority of Americans have access to the system today. Forcing me into a system so the people that can't get in the system today can have access while I get worse care is not a solution.

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