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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Paul is getting a bad rep here.
    He would be the first to treat this person, free of charge. Most people with a conscience would donate money for his care.

    But what is the answer? Shall we reward irresponsibility at any cost? Who is really to be held responsible? Those who always do whats right should also take care of those who just don't give rip?
    When and when does it stop?

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You have no defense for all those rightwingers who stood by and said nothing while the teabaggers mocked the man who was dying. All you have is an ad hom, just like the teabaggers who mocked the man who was dying
    I don't have any defense for them. I certainly wouldn't act that way. I think ordinary people put in political situations (especially in groups) can be rude or disgusting, no matter their ideology. I don't need to masturbate my ideology as superior based on the behavior of incredibly small pockets of the population. I'm just more honest than you in being able to face up to that.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Paul is getting a bad rep here.
    He would be the first to treat this person, free of charge. Most people with a conscience would donate money for his care.

    But what is the answer? Shall we reward irresponsibility at any cost? Who is really to be held responsible? Those who always do whats right should also take care of those who just don't give rip?
    When and when does it stop?
    It matters not if Paul would treat him or not. There are simply not enough big hearted Ron Paul baby doctors to take care of everyone without insurance and keep the system viable and ongoing in a sustainable economic model at the same time.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You have no defense for all those rightwingers who stood by and said nothing while the teabaggers mocked the man who was dying. All you have is an ad hom, just like the teabaggers who mocked the man who was dying
    A man was dying?
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Just out of curiosity, has this video been brought to the attention of the media?

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Just out of curiosity, has this video been brought to the attention of the media?
    Oh man, how come nobody thought of that? You'd better alert them!

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Oh man, how come nobody thought of that? You'd better alert them!
    that's cute.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    I love how progressives paint out Ron Paul to be some sort of radical. It is Ron Paul that proclaims that "We don't have to cut Medicare or Social Security in order to get our House in Order". It is progressives that are attacking medicare and social security. They just have proposed billions of dollars in cuts.

    However, we live in mad world where up is down and night is day.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I guess the important word here is "free." On the OP's clip I heard only two men say "Yeah." I didn't hear "Let him die." But perhaps, as you say, this isn't the point. In a crowd there are likely to be a couple of loudmouthed jerks. And yes, up to a point, they are free to be jerks.

    Somewhere earlier on this thread I posted that I had recently attended my newly elected Rep's local townhall meeting. Probably 350 people in the audience, lots of them in the "retired" age group. For the most part, the audience was very polite, but at the end, there were 2-3 guys in a back corner who mouthed off. Liberals, just FYI, who didn't like the conservative POV being expressed.

    They were rude and irritating, and like others, I turned to glare and see where they were and what they looked like. Never did. Their rudeness made me so mad I could've socked them, and I wanted to shout, "Just STFU!" But I didn't, and nobody else did either, just nervously laughed. I don't think that we were wrong to continue to behave.

    Some posting on this thread think that others in the GOP debate crowd should have done something--what? Become part of the problem? Create more of a disruption? Did we somehow morally fail because we didn't? Did the GOP debate crowd morally fail because they didn't? I'd say that civilized people ignore lone asshats unless they're so disruptive that they're led away by the cops.

    But up to a point, people are free to be jerks. To shout "Yeah!" or even "Let him die!" (which, again, I did not hear on the clip).

    BTW, my friends and I never said, "Wow, those progressives and liberals--they're just disgusting" because others of our friends who are liberals and Dems were also in that crowd and behaved civilly the way the vast, vast majority of us did. Not fair to stereotype those who hold a particular political view because of 2-3 jerks.

    The two guys in the GOP debate behaved disgracefully. But the bad's on them, not the entire Tea Party. Entertaining, kinda, to see those who hate the Tea Party trying to seize on this. And I know who flogged it all too because I Googled--the Huffington Post, Mediaite, and Kos. So there you go.
    I said earlier that all groups have their jerks, their idiots. But what we had hear was some who felt free enough to speak here. Who thought here was where this type of thinking would be accepted, and largely seemed to be.

    Go back and revist when Clinton won. Think back to image Pat Buchanan presented of the republican party. Tell me had no effect.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    As others have stated, this story has been totally blown out of proportion by the media. Like 3 people at the most cheer at that point. When I first heard about this I imagined the crowd literally chanting "Let him die!" as opposed to just a yelp from 2-3 people...

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