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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Oh, I see. You acknowledge, having listened to the audio, that it wasn't an entire crowd of tea-partiers who shouted, "Let him die!" (In fact, two men said only "Yeah!")

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    Since there was no video shot of the audience, I was wondering how you can state so clearly that it was two men who responded to the "just let him die" question? I heard the same tape that you and everyone else did and the response sounded more than just two people but I could never apply an exact number to it. How can you?
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Please direct me to where I need to look in Romans. I'm no scholar. Is this where Jesus says,
    "We are not our brother's keeper. It is survivial of the fittest. He said don't feed the hungry, throw the first stone, bring no compasion to the law. Let them die"?

    This is what you've claimed. I'm going to be disappointed and regard you as dishonest if you can't cite chapter and verse.
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    “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money."
    Obviously Jesus had little to say about public vs private sector services in the bronze age. However, if he were alive today would you see him serving money or god?

    On the subject of taxes:

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    And Jesus said unto them, Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's. And they marveled greatly at him.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Since there was no video shot of the audience, I was wondering how you can state so clearly that it was two men who responded to the "just let him die" question? I heard the same tape that you and everyone else did and the response sounded more than just two people but I could never apply an exact number to it. How can you?
    I counted.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure. But we know in advance it will happen. Are we any more responsible collectively for not planning for it? Leaving ad hock ,assures prices will be higher, we'll all paid for it, and likely more than we have had we apporcahed this with some sort of plan. Isn't not planing also irresponsible?
    Get treated and taken care of, fine. But I think he is taking advantage of the system which is meant for the poor and disabled. He had all the power to get insurance and be taken care of by himself. If he comes out ok then he should at least pay back society or do some community service. I think that is only fair. I just get a weird image like Bill Gates dropping his insurance and saying "thank you america for paying my medical bill!" *rides off in private jet*.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I counted.
    Since there was no video of the actual audience, you were counting what exactly?
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    Get treated and taken care of, fine. But I think he is taking advantage of the system which is meant for the poor and disabled. He had all the power to get insurance and be taken care of by himself. If he comes out ok then he should at least pay back society or do some community service. I think that is only fair. I just get a weird image like Bill Gates dropping his insurance and saying "thank you america for paying my medical bill!" *rides off in private jet*.
    Gates has done that now, so why would he otherwise. This problem is more among those who think they are invinciable, young, and spend the money they have elsewhere. They can't pay the bill like Gates could.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Gates has done that now, so why would he otherwise. This problem is more among those who think they are invinciable, young, and spend the money they have elsewhere. They can't pay the bill like Gates could.
    Why would he pay if it was already paid for? There should be some repercussion for doing that.



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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    Why would he pay if it was already paid for? There should be some repercussion for doing that.
    He doesn't now. I'm not really following you. Today, he doesn't pay and we do. It's one of the problems we face. If we mandate it, h has to pay. If we have UHC, it is no longer a concern. If we cut out all of government, he will do what he's doign to today and not pay and we will again pay through higher costs and prices. The only way that doesn't happen is if we say let him die (though even then someone will take a risk and lose), which silly screams for the audience really won't happen.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He doesn't now. I'm not really following you. Today, he doesn't pay and we do. It's one of the problems we face. If we mandate it, h has to pay. If we have UHC, it is no longer a concern. If we cut out all of government, he will do what he's doign to today and not pay and we will again pay through higher costs and prices. The only way that doesn't happen is if we say let him die (though even then someone will take a risk and lose), which silly screams for the audience really won't happen.
    so uhc then?



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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    so uhc then?
    That would be my choice, but the point is the responsible thing is to have some type of plan for what we know will happen.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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